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Title: dancing girl/ballerina and orange carnival glass HELP!?
Post by: squirrel_tooth_anni on April 02, 2007, 08:26:09 PM
I have the vaseline/vasaline glass Dancing girl or Balarina pattern... lt green.  How do you tell the repro from the orig?

Where can I find what was REALLY made between 1930-34?

 Carnival glass... orange I don't think it's pink.  Powder jar with lid deeply ribbed vert lines and the lid has a large stand out rose with rose leaves all around it.   Carnival glass?  Orange and looks like it.  Was my grandmothers or great grand mothers.  I remember it on the dressing table when I was 5 yrs old.  Grandmother passed last year at age 81.  Another item about the leingth of your hand from heel to fingertip. About 3 inches wide and 2 ish inches deep.  Scalloped edges with four feet.  Long thin almost vine like stems with thin leaves that have a line thru the middle of each.  Some sort of small flower.  All of this is raised all around including the bottom and is the orange iridec. color.  The feet have deep lines cut into the sides about 12 lines cut in each.
Title: Re: dancing girl/balarina and orange carnival glass HELP!?
Post by: Lustrousstone on April 03, 2007, 06:49:42 AM
Hi Welcome to the board. I think we need pictures and a few more details (like who and where for the ballerina for example) before we can help. You would also be better off on the general glass board with two different threads...moderator please.

See the sticky here (http://www.glassmessages.com/index.php/topic,6522.0.html) for help on posting pictures
Title: Re: dancing girl/balarina and orange carnival glass HELP!?
Post by: Max on April 03, 2007, 08:15:28 AM
Hi Squirrel, welcome to the Glass Message Board!  I've emailed you about your photographs.  :)
Title: Re: dancing girl/balarina and orange carnival glass HELP!?
Post by: Mosquito on April 03, 2007, 10:47:03 AM
Hello Squirrel,

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I have the vaseline/vasaline glass Dancing girl or Balarina pattern... lt green.  How do you tell the repro from the orig?

If you mean the Jobling Ballerina, this may be of interest: http://www.glassmessages.com/index.php/topic,8391.15.html

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Where can I find what was REALLY made between 1930-34?

This may be impossible as many patterns from that period were in production for some time. Also, why the 1934 cut off date? many of the most exciting pieces of pre war glass were introduced after 1934. As a starting pont I would recommend Pamela's excellent site www.pressglas-pavillon.de & Siegmar Geiselberger's www.pressglas-korrespondenz. Also I have some of my collection recorded for reference here: http://glassgallery.yobunny.org.uk/index.php?cat=10036
Title: Re: dancing girl/balarina and orange carnival glass HELP!?
Post by: Glen on April 03, 2007, 11:35:51 AM
I wonder if your powder jar is like this one.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=140103310522

I suspect it is 60s or 70s piece - maybe Jeanette - but I can't confirm the maker. Connie might be able to help more.
Title: Re: dancing girl/balarina and orange carnival glass HELP!?
Post by: Connie on April 03, 2007, 12:28:13 PM
A picture is worth a thousand words  ;)

We could guess all week what she means  ;D

But my guess is that she is referring to an American Depression Glass pattern by Hocking Glass better known as Cameo aka Ballerina aka Dancing Girl.
Title: Re: dancing girl/balarina and orange carnival glass HELP!?
Post by: squirrel_tooth_anni on April 03, 2007, 08:06:12 PM
First... ty for the welcome!  ;D
Second... sorry for not posting in correct area and ty for understanding I'm new.

Last... YEAH! TYTYTY for the powder jar you are right that is the one!

Connie... you are right... I do have pics and need to learn how to add.  My hubby and I do childcare during the wk and work close to 73 hrs per week. So... not much time to learn at any given time. I'll work on that.
But yes it is the Cameo, Balarina... Dancing girl. Uranium was added to the glass.  That pattern was in that time frame.  Vaseline glass was stopped by WW2 but started again later. I found a book that helps some.  I just would like to know what book or site to go to for the list dating 1930-34. 
Trying to add pic hope it takes.
Title: Re: dancing girl/balarina and orange carnival glass HELP!?
Post by: squirrel_tooth_anni on April 03, 2007, 08:35:53 PM
Hello Squirrel,

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I have the vaseline/vasaline glass Dancing girl or Balarina pattern... lt green.  How do you tell the repro from the orig?

If you mean the Jobling Ballerina, this may be of interest: http://www.glassmessages.com/index.php/topic,8391.15.html

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Where can I find what was REALLY made between 1930-34?

This may be impossible as many patterns from that period were in production for some time. Also, why the 1934 cut off date? many of the most exciting pieces of pre war glass were introduced after 1934. As a starting pont I would recommend Pamela's excellent site www.pressglas-pavillon.de & Siegmar Geiselberger's www.pressglas-korrespondenz. Also I have some of my collection recorded for reference here: http://glassgallery.yobunny.org.uk/index.php?cat=10036


The book I found Depression Glass by Gene Florence third edition said that this pattern (Cameo, "Ballerina" or Dancing Girl"), known by all names, was along with Cherry Blossom, Mayfair, Miss America and Sharon were the top five most collected pattern in the Depression Glass.  I only just found out that when put under a blk light it glows a Neon Yellow/Green! lol Very cool I thought after having the plate for 2 years before finding this out.
This Pattern was made in Green, Yellow, Crystal and Pink. Crystal didn't have many listings and Yellow in some areas were more expensive than some Green.
I'm just trying to find a more updated listing of what is out there and what are reproductions and how do you know?  I havn't found any company stampings or dates on plate or relish dish.
Title: Re: dancing girl/balarina and orange carnival glass HELP!?
Post by: Connie on April 03, 2007, 09:20:54 PM
Hi Squirrel -

Here is a page about Depression Glass Reproductions.  Look under "Cameo" which is the official name of this pattern.

http://www.glassshow.com/arepro.html

Without a picture it is hard to be definitive, but if the green glass glows under UV light then it is most likely to be original.  The reproduction green is not the same shade, the pattern is less distinct and I am fairly certain that it doesn't contain uranium so therefore should not glow under UV light.
Title: Re: dancing girl/balarina and orange carnival glass HELP!?
Post by: squirrel_tooth_anni on April 03, 2007, 09:45:23 PM
Hey ty v much!

I have a picture of it but I don't know how to put it in here as a link.  I posted under glass questions. There is a pic under that topic.
Title: Re: dancing girl/ballerina and orange carnival glass HELP!?
Post by: Max on April 04, 2007, 08:16:08 AM
Is this your photograph Squirrel?

http://glassgallery.yobunny.org.uk/displayimage.php?pos=-6238

Well done for using GlassGallery, thank you.  You just had to copy the link underneath your photograph and paste it into your posting here.   :) :)

Title: Re: dancing girl/ballerina and orange carnival glass HELP!?
Post by: Connie on April 04, 2007, 09:11:11 AM
The first plate looks like the 7½ in footed 3-part relish and the second is the 10½ inch grill plate.  Both were made in green and have not been documented to have been reproduced.
Title: Re: dancing girl/ballerina and orange carnival glass HELP!?
Post by: squirrel_tooth_anni on April 04, 2007, 05:36:22 PM
http://glassgallery.yobunny.org.uk/displayimage.php?pos=-6237
http://glassgallery.yobunny.org.uk/displayimage.php?pos=-6238

Like this? Thank you all for being so patient with me.  (^_^)
I'll brush up on the proper places for each question.
Title: Re: dancing girl/balarina and orange carnival glass HELP!?
Post by: squirrel_tooth_anni on April 05, 2007, 12:24:18 AM
I wonder if your powder jar is like this one.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=140103310522

I suspect it is 60s or 70s piece - maybe Jeanette - but I can't confirm the maker. Connie might be able to help more.

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GLEN! lol

ty ty!  You were RIGHT!  My mom and I went on ebay and found not only the powder jar but the candy dish too!  Ok... I'm getting bobby pins and put em in the candydish like I remember it. Not worth a lot in money but priceless in memories!

 ;)