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Title: Large Glass dish with fir/pine cone decoration
Post by: Tony H on April 21, 2007, 03:21:50 AM: Hi Guys
Here is a link to an early topic of mine, http://www.glassmessages.com/index.php/topic,5048.msg41440.html#msg41440 would like to revive it

I have a large clear dish 14.25" long 9.5" wide and 1.5" high at each end the lip is 2" and could act as a handle on these is a fir/pine cone decoration very much lik Jobling it weighs 2.549kg.

At the right top end is REIMES and on the opposite side is FRANCE this is read from the base side, on the inside bottom right is Verlux in script.

I would very much like to ID this piece, I belive it is known in opalscent, I have searched with know luck so far, are or have there been any glass factorys in REIMS I belive VSL used this name also, is there a connection?

Here are links to dish and signiture

http://glassgallery.yobunny.org.uk/displayimage.php?pos=-1542

http://glassgallery.yobunny.org.uk/displayimage.php?pos=-1541

Many thanks for any help

Tony H in NZ
Title: Re: Large Glass dish with fir/pine cone decoration
Post by: Decolucretia on April 21, 2007, 03:49:09 AM: Hi Tony,

Here's my two cent's worth. I was always under the impression that Verlux was an alternate line made by Etling (or same factory). Can't for the life of me remember where I read this (or whether this is correct). Had a quick browse through the usual glass reference books to no avail.

Couldn't access your previous thread so I hope I haven't gone over old ground here...

Michelle
Title: Re: Large Glass dish with fir/pine cone decoration
Post by: Cathy B on April 21, 2007, 04:56:32 AM: Hi Michelle - Tony made exactly that suggestion in his earlier thread, and Steven/Mosquito suggested otherwise.
Here it is again - can you access it this time?
http://www.glassmessages.com/index.php/topic,5048.0.html
Cheers
Title: Re: Large Glass dish with fir/pine cone decoration
Post by: Tony H on April 21, 2007, 05:00:52 AM: Hi Guys

I have just found this on the net, but it does not tell us much.

LINK
(http://www.titusomega.com/Object%20Profile%20and%20Photos/Old%20profiles/GLASS/Verlux%20Opalescent%20Charger.htm)
Sorry for large link

Tony H in NZ

Moderator: Link shortened :)
Title: Re: Large Glass dish with fir/pine cone decoration
Post by: Decolucretia on April 21, 2007, 05:06:46 AM: Quote from: Cathy B on April 21, 2007, 04:56:32 AM
Hi Michelle - Tony made exactly that suggestion in his earlier thread, and Steven/Mosquito suggested otherwise.
Here it is again - can you access it this time?
http://www.glassmessages.com/index.php/topic,5048.0.html
Cheers

Thanks Cathy - I was able to access the thread and found that I had indeed trawled over old ground :-[ - sorry 'bout that.

Tony, I can't seem to access your second link either - perhaps my computer has goblins in it today ::)
Title: Re: Large Glass dish with fir/pine cone decoration
Post by: Tony H on April 21, 2007, 05:23:13 AM: Michelle
Try the link again it might work this time, there was a bit missing

Tony H in NZ
Title: Re: Large Glass dish with fir/pine cone decoration
Post by: Decolucretia on April 21, 2007, 05:50:59 AM: Thanks Tony, it worked.
Title: Re: Large Glass dish with fir/pine cone decoration
Post by: Ivo on April 21, 2007, 07:04:35 AM: I have looked at the available literature on the subject of Verlux some years ago and it was suggested by several authors that this was a brand name from VSL. However, I could find no firm evidence of this so assumed all authors quoted eachother, and was stuck with a "could be", "might be" or "possibly" formulation. And indeed, now that a Verlux piece appears marked "REIMS", VSL disappears completely.
Reims is the location of several glass industries. It is the capital of Champagne, and produces an incredible number of champagne bottles. It is also the home of VMC (Verrerie Mécanique Champenoise) who produce advertising ashtrays, flower frogs, and general mechanical glassware. I'm not quite sure how VMC came into existence (it is usual to find several mergers, takeovers and name changes over the years) but Verlux may well have been one of their lines.
Title: Re: Large Glass dish with fir/pine cone decoration
Post by: Tony H on April 21, 2007, 08:20:06 AM: Ivo
Thank you for your help I will do a search for Verrerie Mécanique Champenoise and see what I can find.

Tony H in NZ
Title: Re: Large Glass dish with fir/pine cone decoration
Post by: Frank on April 21, 2007, 10:10:43 AM: Tony is it really spelled ReimEs on the piece?
Title: Re: Large Glass dish with fir/pine cone decoration
Post by: Tony H on April 21, 2007, 07:17:57 PM: Frank
Well spotted, sorry about that extra E it is REIMS one of those senior moments.

Ivo
How would you wright Verrerie Mécanique Champenoise in English as all the searchs I do are in French and I cannot read them.

Tony H in NZ
Title: Re: Large Glass dish with fir/pine cone decoration
Post by: Anne on April 22, 2007, 01:41:46 AM: Champagne Mechanical Glassmaking?
Title: Re: Large Glass dish with fir/pine cone decoration
Post by: Ivo on April 22, 2007, 06:00:42 AM: ??? ??? ???
you can use the "translate this page" option, perhaps? Or learn French?
Title: Re: Large Glass dish with fir/pine cone decoration
Post by: Frank on April 22, 2007, 09:49:48 AM: In a French directory, they are listed as "Société Anonyme des Verreries Mécaniques" I know minor spelling twitches can find different pages. A trick to find English entries is to drop the accents as many people just ignore them if they don't know how to type them..