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Glass Identification - Post here for all ID requests => Glass => Topic started by: suel on April 23, 2007, 06:22:17 AM
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Hi
I have a set of 6 crystal spirit tumblers with a crown mark on the bottom. It is a 5 point crown with round dots on each point. The crown base is two long dashes followed by a row of 5 short dashes then another row of two long, there is a vertical dash on each side of these three rows. Can anyone tell me the manufacturer please? I have searched the likely candidates being Stuart, Webb Corbett & Waterford but can not find a Crown mark like this in their marks. These were a wedding present and I had thought the aunt said they were Webb Corbett.
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Hi Suel,
Crown Crystal Glass Co., Australia, perhaps. They have a makers mark of a crown with 3 dots.
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Not sure, Christine. 'Till recently, that mark was usually found on their pyrex ware. They did have a crystal line, but it's acid etched 'Grimwade', labelled, or completely unmarked. Could it be more recent though - I'm not sure what they've been making since 1997. The logo they use on this website is a more stylised version of the old mark.
http://www.crowncommercial.com.au/content/products/category.aspx?brand=Crown%20Glassware&category=wg
Certainly there's nothing like that in their current catalogue.
Sue, is there any chance of a photograph?
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Hi Cathy,
You are as bad as my Mum, she always calls me Christine too (she has her mind on my sister at the time). ;) ;D ;D
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There are a lot of makers using crowns, picture vital.
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Ok I have taken a picture...not easy as the bottom of the tumbler is ridged...
have uploaded...just in case I didn't get the link bit right it is the 3rd page bottom row of the marks gallery. Have just looked at the Royal Doulton website...the pattern is similar to one they have on a brandy decanter & glasses. I don't see any reference to a crown mark. My set could have been produced around the time Royal Doulton bought up Webb Corbett give or take a year or two or three :)
Suel
http://glassgallery.yobunny.org.uk/displayimage.php?pos=-6633
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Not in Hartmann. In any case it is sand-blast stencilled which would tend to point to later 20th Century.
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Should have added... the wedding for which they were a present was in 1984 in NZ
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And the crown is not very British. Although it could be a coronet 'Ducal' etc.
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Did manufacturers have different marks for export?
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Sue: Definitely not Crown Crystal of Aus.
Della: Oh flip, sorry Della!! ;D ::) ;D
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Thanks I was told yesterday by an antique dealer that it is Royal Doulton after buying out Webb Corbett. Thanks everyone.
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Doesn't look like the Webb Corbett crown in the Glass fact File a-z. They were taken over by Doulton in 1969 but the name wasn't dropped until 1986
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The Webb Corbett 'crown' is a stylised W C plus 5 dots.
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Oh dear...more confusion...it is definitely a crown with 5 dots but not a stylised W C. I can only find Webb Corbett marks on Great-Glass...no Royal Doulton.
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Time for another look at this crown mark.
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Hi, sorry this wont help but I have two small candlesticks with the same mark on them. I am sure I put them on here somewhere. I will dig out the photos, they may help identifying maker. I was pointed towards a German company but never found anything.
http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l304/petet63/IMG_0667.jpg
http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l304/petet63/IMG_0669.jpg
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http://www.glassmessages.com/index.php/topic,17544.msg103426.html#msg103426
Is this the same mark?
The Great Glass site shows two different crown marks for Webb Corbett
please scroll down to see WebbCorbett marks
http://www.great-glass.co.uk/glass%20notes/markt-z.htm
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That was added since this topic last aired. So Webb Corbett would seem likely, if someone can confirm you candlesticks are WC, case closed. Need to check the Great Glass source too.