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Glass Identification - Post here for all ID requests => Glass => Topic started by: josordoni on May 12, 2007, 02:55:55 PM
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Tall vase, I bought assuming it was Dartington, but I can't find the pattern anywhere...
so a) is is actually Dartington? If not, who?
and b) what is the pattern name?
Many thanks
http://glassgallery.yobunny.org.uk/displayimage.php?pos=-6950
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I've got one of these. I also bought it assuming it was Dartington and they sell them as Dartington on ebay. Pattern name I do not know. The colour is right. However I looked at the Dartington catalogue on Whitefriars.org and cannot see it there.
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Thanks Pat, I found it on ebay too but I don't like using ebay as an identification tool, there are amazing things on there that are actually something else!
If I found several of them, all with the same pattern name, I'd probably go with it, but as nobody actually knows what it is called, I am left wondering if we are all just making the same assumption..... ???
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I just added a bit to my post did you see it?
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Ah yes, I did now.
Yes, I checked the Dartington catalogues before I posted, which is another reason I am starting to doubt my first view of who made this.
I am sure someone here will recognise it.
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Lynne, Blenko made vases with daisy type motifs on them - very similar to yours (I can't find a picture right now but I'll keep checking) and I remember thinking at the time how much they resembled Dartington. I'm sure someone like Adam or Charles has posted one on here before ???
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Thanks Pip, I'll do a search for Blenko.
If it is , I think that'd be nice! ;D
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Actually Lynne, this is the thread I was thinking of and, as you can see, the Blenko has much simpler flowers ... sorry :-\
http://www.glassmessages.com/index.php/topic,7300.0.html
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Ah, you beat me to it! ;D I was just about to send you to the same place...
And I can't find anything even similar at the Blenko sites, nor can I find this colour in the Blenko colour pages. So.....
Slide back down the snake back to the start...
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I posted one of those on the WF.com IsIt a year or two back. I got a Dartington reply first, then someone else said no way (might have been Max?). Following up later on someone who has several of them suggested that the glass was not of the type/standard used by Dartington and that they had rather sharp edges unlike pretty much all the Dartington I have.
So...I still don't know who made them but Dartington seems unlikely.
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Oh dear, looks like it is going to be one of those unattributed things that are EVERYWHERE !
:'(
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Don't despair Lynne, it may take a while but I'm sure it'll be named some time. Look at how many of the eye vases (http://www.glassmessages.com/index.php/topic,1598.0.html) we saw before we found a labelled one and found they were Oberglas. ;D
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Yes, that's very true. 8)
Oh well, on to the next what-on-earth-is-it from my shelves. I have a few absolute monstrosities for your delectation later today....
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Perceived wisdom....p 286 JMC 2007, this is FT. Contrast this with apparently same vase,
JMC 2007 p 324 Other Manufacturers, blamed on Dartington or W.S. Jones.
No help really I know, but that is maybe the current state of knowledge??
regards,
Marcus
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Forgive me Marcus, I am not advanced sufficiently to understand the acronyms :-[
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Hi Lynne,
I think that JMC = Judith Miller Collectibles (or collectables :-\ )
;D
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Aha! Thank you! That makes sense...
Is that the DK one? I get VERY VERY lost with Millers nomenclature.
Now to work out what FT is as I am sure it is not the Pink Pages....
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FT = Frank Thrower ;)
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:clap:
Thank you! So he is Dartington anyway...
Looks like it may well be Dartington after all!
so much soul searching, so little soul....
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Della,
Thanks for the interpretation.
Lynne,
My apologies, I was just attempting to be quick, without thought that I would perhaps confuse rather than clarify.
Regards,
Marcus
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Goodness Marcus, don't apologise - I OUGHT to have known really, I just couldn't work it out.
But I really should have got FT, I suppose I was just thinking away from Dartington.
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Hi Lynne, was just browsing and came across this www.northdevonfestival.org/events/frankthrower.html it isnt your vase but it might be in there, maybe some one from the GMB could have a look.
Another event i wont be able to go to (sigh) :'(
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Hi Sue, no... me neither.... :'(
It would be great though if someone was going and could maybe print out the pic of the vase and see if anyone there could give a firm id.
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Hi Lynne, was just browsing and came across this www.northdevonfestival.org/events/frankthrower.html it isnt your vase but it might be in there, maybe some one from the GMB could have a look.
Another event i wont be able to go to (sigh) :'(
Sue, this could be added to the Events forum as well :)
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Hi Anne, sorry!! iv'e not been very well and my head has been a bit befuddled, so i will do it now.
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This exhibition coincides with the release of Mark Hill and Eve Thrower's new book on Dartington so it might be worth waiting for the release of the book Lynne (I've got one on order).
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Good idea Pip, hope you won't mind checking it for me when you get your copy?
thanks in anticipation
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Good idea Pip, hope you won't mind checking it for me when you get your copy?
thanks in anticipation
No worries Lynne, you never know Mark might be along here before then anyway.
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I don't know, poor chap, I expect he is chasing his tail, trying to get everything ready...
:(
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Hi All,
Just a quick one...it was indeed thought that this was probably Dartington when it was shot for the 'JMC' guide (nice acronym, Marcus!) in early 2005, but subsequent research has revealed it's not. It doesn't appear in the book Eve and I have produced, nor does it appear in any company literature I have seen. I know it's not of much positive help in identifying a definitive maker, but at least it's one more company to strike off the list!
All the best,
Mark
www.markhillpublishing.com
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Thank you Mark!
Oh well... we will probably never know......
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Hi Mark, I think it should be in Market Place so I'll move it over for you and leave a cross-reference here. I've already added the Dartington anniversary events to the Events forum listing. 8)
By the way, don't forget to add your Glass books to the members' publications sticky in Archives here: http://www.glassmessages.com/index.php/topic,2066.0.html
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Topic split here. Details of the Frank Thrower book moved to http://www.glassmessages.com/index.php/topic,14026.0.html
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Hi all, i have just bought Judith Miller's Sixties Style and there is a smashing picture of the Blenko daisy vase designed by Wayne Husted, designe number 6115L.
Lot's of big pic's and only the info you need ie: maker, designer and pattern number if known, a handy little referance book :)
Now, to look up wayne Husted.