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Glass Identification - Post here for all ID requests => Glass => Topic started by: mrvaselineglass on May 12, 2007, 07:02:01 PM
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I have not yet received this cup, so only photo has been borrowed from the seller. It is 8.5cm/ 3 1/4" tall. Seller did not mention that it was uranium/vaseline glass. there is a chip on front corner. the cup appears to be cut glass, with concave facets and notching on the top rim. I am not even sure what usage it would have during the time it was made, being that small. alcohol perhaps? It is about the size of an egg cup, but seems to be too wide at the top for that purpose. My guess based on style, color, simplistic cutting, that it is about 1850's. Any comments are welcome. thanks.
http://www.vaselineglass.org/cutcup07.jpg (http://www.vaselineglass.org/cutcup07.jpg)
regards
Mr. Vaseline Glass
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WELL, 25 people have looked at my little cup, with no comments. today, I got the cup in the mail, and took some fresh photos and measurements. here is the link:
(left: UV, center: indoor room with room light only, right: outdoors in bright sunlight)
http://www.vaselineglass.org/cutcuptrio.jpg (http://www.vaselineglass.org/cutcuptrio.jpg)
the height is 3 1/2" exactly (not the original 3 1/4" the seller quoted). the top diameter is 2 7/8". The foot is 2 3/16" square. The glass has a lot of swirls, micro bubbles, impurities that show up under a 5X loupe. It also sings! when lightly flicked, it will sing audibly for a full five seconds! I knew it was cut, but it has a great bell tone!
Coincedentially, I sat it next to the swan salt I got at Harrisburg, PA (Nat'l East Coast Antique show) and the first thing that caught my eye was the similarities of the base.
http://www.vaselineglass.org/squarebasetwins.jpg (http://www.vaselineglass.org/squarebasetwins.jpg)
The bases are so close in size (minus the little chip, of course) that they are within 1/16th of an inch to being a match, and 1/32th of an inch to being an exact match for thickness! I think this may be a bit more than a coincedence and I have to at least entertain the possibility that it could possibly be the same factory that made both of these. the color is off just a little as far as comparing the two, but I also know that color quality control was not an exact science back in the 1840-50 era (or even 1880s!), so that does not automatically make it a different maker. The simplistic cutting, the impurities and bubbles, the overall style, etc, just makes me think that this is most likely English, about 1840-50 for a time frame.
as always, comments are appreciated.
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I don't have a clue, but the colour seems very distinctive to me. More dandelion than than primrose or canary. I only have one piece that comes anywhere near it in colour. That too is lead crystal and full of bubbles and impurities. I'll upload it later
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I can't explain why, but the square foot makes me think it may not be as early as Victorian :-\
The colour is much better in your photos than the sellers' pic, Dave! :D The outdoor one really shows how uranium glass glows in sunlight 8)
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Here's my candlestick (http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b217/lustrousstone/IMG_1174.jpg). The other day I saw some tiny glasses with square feet - I think they were cut, they were old but I'm not sure they were Victorian either
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LUSTROUSSTONE: your candlestick is shown in Barry Skelcher's book, THE BIG BOOK OF VASELINE and he said it was made by Molineaux and Webb. If I recall correctly, it is about 1850-60 for the candlestick. I have actually had a single one of these. The one thing that I remember about the stick is how big and heavy it was!
on the website great-glass.co.uk, there are four different square footed dishes on the unidentified ENGLISH: GEORGIAN AND REGENCY GLASS page, and one is annagelb in color. The color is a bit different, but that piece is going to glow too.
http://www.great-glass.co.uk/library/lib2b.htm (http://www.great-glass.co.uk/library/lib2b.htm)