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Title: Victorian Vaseline CUT & trailed bowl!
Post by: Leni on May 13, 2007, 05:56:48 PM
We had a wonderful day at Gaydon! ;D We met lots of lovely GMB people {{{hugs}}} and bought some super glass! :D

This bowl was so unusual that it just had to come home with me! http://glassgallery.yobunny.org.uk/albums/userpics/10048/Trailed___cut_bowl.jpg
It is the first time I have seen a Victorian vaseline bowl with not only 'water lily' trails, but cutting! :o

This is the base, which shows the very pretty cut pattern. http://glassgallery.yobunny.org.uk/albums/userpics/10048/Trailed___cut_bowl_base.jpg
IMO it's so nicely done that it's very tasteful and not in the least OTT, which you might think it could be, having 'a bit of everything' as it does :D 

Oh, and I also found another 'Audrey', this time in pink, to keep her 'sister' company! (The one who started my Victorian vaseline collection, and whose picture I wear on my GMB badge.)
http://glassgallery.yobunny.org.uk/albums/userpics/10048/Pink_thorn_flower.jpg
http://glassgallery.yobunny.org.uk/albums/userpics/10048/normal_Green%20thorn%20flower.jpg

I've given up asking who made these.  Now I have my 'Gulliver' I know that it's acceptable to say they're 'probaby English' and 'possibly Stourbridge' and that 'It's impossible to know' is a reasonable answer!  (Bernard, you'd be proud of me! ;) )
Title: Re: Victorian Vaseline CUT & trailed bowl!
Post by: Lustrousstone on May 13, 2007, 06:06:57 PM
Love the bowl. Wish I'd been there  :(
Title: Re: Victorian Vaseline CUT & trailed bowl!
Post by: mrvaselineglass on May 13, 2007, 11:42:25 PM
that cut bowl is Sweet!!!  Yup, I wish I could have been there too!  Every mother's day, I think about the GLASS FAIRE and how I wish I could go back!  I have no clue who made it, but I would not have passed it up.  I would have said "sold" before looking at that price on that piece! 

regards
Mr. Vaseline Glass
Title: Re: Victorian Vaseline CUT & trailed bowl!
Post by: Leni on May 14, 2007, 11:13:04 AM
I've given up asking who made these.  Now I have my 'Gulliver' I know that it's acceptable to say they're 'probaby English' and 'possibly Stourbridge' and that 'It's impossible to know' is a reasonable answer!
Um. :-[ ::) Having said this, I then looked through my Gulliver, and in the chapter on Registered Designs (page 283 for those of you who have a copy) I found this:
Registered Design number 435959 - July 1, 1904 (Design of a mold blown decorative motif) looks very like the design on my bowl ???  Can I therefore say that IMO the bowl could be Walsh? :D :-\     

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Title: Re: Victorian Vaseline CUT & trailed bowl!
Post by: Leni on May 14, 2007, 03:46:41 PM
Sorry about that! :-[  I thought I was allowed to use the image, as it is in the Public Records Office at Kew.  Would it be OK if I drew a copy of the image myself, since presumably that's what Gulliver did?  :-\

Here's my sketch of the design John Walsh Walsh registered on July 1st 1904, which looks to me to be identical to my bowl. http://glassgallery.yobunny.org.uk/displayimage.php?pos=-7026
Title: Re: Victorian Vaseline CUT & trailed bowl!
Post by: Anne on May 14, 2007, 04:54:25 PM
Yes, copies you create by drawing are fine Leni. The copyright of those belongs to you as the creator. :)
Title: Re: Victorian Vaseline CUT & trailed bowl!
Post by: Frank on May 14, 2007, 08:07:17 PM
As long as you don't trace it  >:D if the original is crown copyright it might be tricky but if it was from an company pattern book it has been out of copyright after 25 years. So trace away.
Title: Re: Victorian Vaseline CUT & trailed bowl!
Post by: Leni on May 14, 2007, 08:22:44 PM
I re-read my Gulliver and, as I understand it, he says that he went to the Public Records Office at Kew and traced all the registered designs he shows in chapter 5, and copied out all the descriptions! :o  Whew!  ::)