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Glass Identification - Post here for all ID requests => Glass => Topic started by: Ivo on May 23, 2007, 04:04:40 PM
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Found in a local shop (for local people) in Anstruther:
http://glassgallery.yobunny.org.uk/displayimage.php?pos=-7160
On the inside bottom is some uncertain marking. The registration lozenge is too vague to interpret.
http://glassgallery.yobunny.org.uk/displayimage.php?pos=-7159
Anyone recognise the item as Sowerby or Davidson or Greener?
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As it happens, I've got one , together with a matching sugar basin in this last lot of slag I bought.
My creamer has a nice clear reg diamond on the inside base, and it is a Heppell, from September 1880, registration no 354935,
I'll get the pix done in a mo, and pop them up.
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Here we are:
http://glassgallery.yobunny.org.uk/displayimage.php?pos=-7170
http://glassgallery.yobunny.org.uk/displayimage.php?pos=-7171
http://glassgallery.yobunny.org.uk/displayimage.php?pos=-7169
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... The registration lozenge is too vague to interpret. ...
Oh, no it's not. In Sowerby Pattern Book IX (1882), reproduced in Cottle, there is a bucket (toothpick?) in the same design, pattern number 1560. Sowerby made only four lozenge registrations on the 14th, May 1878, August 1879, September 1880, and December 1881.
Pattern 1560 fits best with 14 September 1880, as 1547 is July 1880, and 1568 is March 1881 — so beautifully bracketed.
Nihil illegitimus carborundum!
Bernard C. 8)
(Just send roses)
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Yet Great Glass registration interpreter deff has mine as Heppell, Bernard.....
what do you think?
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Lynne — That's a beautiful Sowerby lozenge. Both Thompson and Cottle confirm it, even down to the parcel number. great-glass copied it wrongly. Anyway, your sugar and cream doesn't even look like Heppell, much too delicate.
Bernard C. 8)
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Ah, actually, I just rechecked, my mistake not theirs. Looking back, there are two pieces immediately under each other, both with parcel 1, but one is 7th September (the Heppell) and one is 14th (this one). I didn't look carefully enough :-[
I'm still very happy that they are Sowerby! I would have expected them to have the peacock head by then - are a lot of Sowerby pieces unmarked?
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Nihil illegitimus carborundum!
Blimey Guv I swear it is Latin to me! Homo doctvs is se semper divitias habet. Hoc tempore obsequium amicos, veritas odium parit. Mater tua criceta fuit, et pater tuo redoluit bacarum sambucus. ehrm....
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translation pleeeeeease :o
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Nihil illegitimus carborundum!
Don't let the bas***ds grind you down....
But the other Latin defeats not only me but the online Latin translator:
it gives me:
Homo doctvs this himself always riches government. This transitory indulgence female friend , truthfulness hatred likewise. Mother your criceta fuit , and patris tuo redoluit bacarum sambucus
hmmmmmmmmmmm
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A learned man always has wealth within himself. In these days friends are won through flattery, the truth gives birth to hate. Your mother was a hamster and your father smelt of elderberries.
OK it may be a tad offtopic. I promise to use Shakespeare next time. ;)
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I dunno Ivo, I reckon... this himself always
enriches government smacks of truth.... ::)
and how the heck did you know my dad always smelt of elderberries?
True in the autumn anyway, he made LOADS of elderberry wine!
I am not quite sure about my mum and the hamster.... I'll have a look when I see her next....
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Lynne
"Your mother was a hamster and your father smelt of elderberries."
quote from Monty Python's Quest for the Holy Grail - fantastic film ;D ;D ;D
Tim (the Enchanter)
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Aha!
Still.... my dad DID smell of elderberries!