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Title: Two blue vases - Czech?
Post by: Anne E.B. on May 30, 2007, 02:50:35 PM
Any thoughts on what these two vases might be would be really appreciated. ;D

#1. Blue vertical ribbed - 5" high.  Round base (gently concave), becoming three-sided at the top.  Initial thoughts - poss. Czech.
http://glassgallery.yobunny.org.uk/displayimage.php?pos=-6905

#2. Turquoise scallop edged optic vase - alternating clear and stippled diamonds.  6" high. Star cut base (18 points).  Old with lots of wear on base rim.
http://glassgallery.yobunny.org.uk/displayimage.php?pos=-6914

Showing both interiors.
http://glassgallery.yobunny.org.uk/displayimage.php?pos=-6913

TIA ;)
Title: Re: Two blue vases - Czech?
Post by: maddy on June 01, 2007, 10:10:01 AM

Hi Dont know who made scallop edged vase but I have one in lime green and  etched inside by top rim is the word CELERY. ?? :) Maddy
Title: Re: Two blue vases - Czech?
Post by: Lustrousstone on June 01, 2007, 11:23:52 AM
In that case the scalloped one is British!
Title: Re: Two blue vases - Czech?
Post by: Anne E.B. on June 01, 2007, 11:52:47 AM
Many thanks Maddy and Christine :)  I've had a good look inside the diamond optic - without success.

One down, one to go ;).
Title: Re: Two blue vases - Czech?
Post by: josordoni on June 01, 2007, 01:54:31 PM
In that case the scalloped one is British!

Or made for the British market? (Germany/Czecho made TONS of porcelain stuff with English wording...I would presume glass would be the same?)

Or American?

Title: Re: Two blue vases - Czech?
Post by: Lustrousstone on June 01, 2007, 02:43:54 PM
No don't think so, the celery mark was used to avoid luxury goods tax on home-produced vases (I need to look up when but post war I think). A celery container (cough cough) being a food container and therefore not luxury goods, I don't think anything stamped celery was actually meant for celery - unlees it was in flower. >:D
Title: Re: Two blue vases - Czech?
Post by: josordoni on June 01, 2007, 03:25:29 PM
Ah.... there you go then.....

cos when its porcelain, and probably as revolting as this one (http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/SADLER-Celery-Vase-mint_W0QQitemZ250115352122QQihZ015QQcategoryZ2816QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem) , you definitely reckon you would put celery in it... because you wouldn't want to upset the flowers.... >:D
Title: Re: Two blue vases - Czech?
Post by: Mike M on June 01, 2007, 11:05:58 PM
Christine

I too always thought 'Celery' meant british made but then I found a  Val St Lambert vase marked 'Celery' too.

Either it applied to imported goods too or
VSL just thought it was a fashion to be followed?

cheers

Mike
Title: Re: Two blue vases - Czech?
Post by: Carolyn Preston on June 03, 2007, 01:05:14 AM
Maybe it is for storing celery in the fridge. If you kept it in water, it would stay nice and crisp. The ad says it is decorative but not in my life.   ;D  (Of course I mean the one in the ebay ad, not the Czech ones)

Carolyn
Title: Re: Two blue vases - Czech?
Post by: Sklounion on June 03, 2007, 06:54:29 AM
The first of these is definitely Czech, VHJ Obal.
The second, I have a feeling I have seen somewhere, and may be German.
Regards,
Marcus
Title: Re: Two blue vases - Czech?
Post by: Anne E.B. on June 03, 2007, 02:53:21 PM
Many thanks Marcus.  Much appreciated 8)
Title: Re: Two blue vases - Czech?
Post by: Cathy B on June 04, 2007, 03:20:47 AM
Maybe the celery vases were actually used as such in the US, but then the idea was picked up as a neat tariff avoiding trick in the UK? Certainly the story about celery being a delicacy at the Victorian table has been around for a while:

http://hdonline.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20070520/LIFE/705200307/1004

 ???
Title: Re: Two blue vases - Czech?
Post by: Lustrousstone on June 04, 2007, 11:57:41 AM
Celery vases were used in the UK, indeed there is a lovely Jobling vase that uses celery leaves for its design, but I doubt the discreetly marked ones were intended for celery, more celery "wink, wink, nudge, nudge, you know what I mean". Presumably the Purchase Tax also applied to imports, I had assumed it didn't
Title: Re: Two blue vases - Czech?
Post by: Cathy B on June 04, 2007, 12:46:25 PM
Ah, that makes sense!