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Title: Edward Bowman & Son, Ltd.
Post by: Pinkspoons on June 07, 2007, 10:30:37 AM
Does anyone know anything about Edward Bowman & Son, Ltd.?

They were the sole agent for Holmegaard in the UK c.late 1950s - mid 1960s. They don't appear to be trading anymore, and there's not even a glimmer of a hint of a mention of them via Google.

I've no idea on how to chase up defunct businesses, it's a new one on me.

Any help, gratefully received.
Title: Re: Edward Bowman & Son, Ltd.
Post by: Frank on June 07, 2007, 12:03:30 PM
Try http://www.companieshouse.gov.uk/ when it is back on line, but they do not have full coverage  :( unless you visit.

in 1953 address: 118, Holborn EC1
in 1963 were agents for Holmegaard, Hadeland, Flygsfors, Villeroy & Boch. Address: Gamage Building, London EC1
Title: Re: Edward Bowman & Son, Ltd.
Post by: Pinkspoons on June 07, 2007, 12:23:48 PM
Thanks for that, Frank.

I'd noticed that the Companies House website was down, but a few similar sites found no mention of them (Bowman & Son). Hopefully the site will yield something when it gets resurrected!  ;D

I know from old HG adverts that they were still at Gamage Building in 1969.
Title: Re: Edward Bowman & Son, Ltd.
Post by: Sklounion on June 07, 2007, 01:16:11 PM
Hi Nic,
I'll have a chat with one of my contacts and see what he can tell me regarding the company.
Regards,
Marcus
Title: Re: Edward Bowman & Son, Ltd.
Post by: Sklounion on June 07, 2007, 01:22:55 PM
Nic,
There is still an E.Bowman and Sons Ltd, but unlikely as they are builders. How certain is the "Limited" part?
Regards,
Marcus
Title: Re: Edward Bowman & Son, Ltd.
Post by: Frank on June 07, 2007, 03:01:36 PM
certain.

In 1950 they advertised as Specialists in Enamel Fired Decorations on British Crystal Only.
Title: Re: Edward Bowman & Son, Ltd.
Post by: Pinkspoons on June 07, 2007, 04:45:59 PM
I'll have a chat with one of my contacts and see what he can tell me regarding the company.

Thanks Marcus - very much appreciated.  :)

It wouldn't be terribly likely, would it, that if the company did still exist that they would have kept records from way back then?

And, I suppose, even less likely if they had gone out of business.  :(
Title: Re: Edward Bowman & Son, Ltd.
Post by: Sklounion on June 07, 2007, 05:01:10 PM
Hi Nic,
Companies do keep paperwork, even where the direction has changed, hence Mark Hill's generous permission to use images from a Dexam catalogue. Some companies have only disappeared in the last ten or fifteen years, and not all have ended with the accountants slinging excess, and non-financially related material.

Frank, there is no trace of Edward Bowman and Son Ltd in the current registers. I presume the list of dissolved names at Companies House web-site is not designed to go back more than 10 or 15 years, and I am having similar problems with Duroc Ltd.

Regards,

Marcus
Title: Re: Edward Bowman & Son, Ltd.
Post by: Pinkspoons on June 07, 2007, 05:45:03 PM
But you're forgetting that this is Holmegaard, where everything useful seems to have been either systematically destroyed over the years, or locked away from prying eyes in the impenetrable Holmegaard museum archive!  ;D

I'm finding out, quite quickly, why no one has attempted any serious research into the company since 1975 - the relevant materials just aren't in the public forum anymore.
Title: Re: Edward Bowman & Son, Ltd.
Post by: Frank on June 07, 2007, 09:25:46 PM
Trade journals of various trades that H made glass for should be an alternative source... usually painting an idealised picture of the company.
Title: Re: Edward Bowman & Son, Ltd.
Post by: Pinkspoons on June 07, 2007, 09:32:27 PM
I have one or two of those - they depict the factory as run by designers and not suits, and as a place where artistic flare is more important than economic viability/reality.

Although this was in the 1940s/50s, and may not have been too far from the truth - compared to today, at any rate.
Title: Re: Edward Bowman & Son, Ltd.
Post by: Sklounion on June 13, 2007, 06:53:04 AM
Hi Nic,
Sadly my friend cannot help on this one.
However, the Gamage Building itself appears to be leased. So another way of skinning the cat may be to find out who owns it, and try them??
Try the Land Registry. Costs around a fiver to access the details of a property.
Regards,
Marcus
Title: Re: Edward Bowman & Son, Ltd.
Post by: Pinkspoons on June 13, 2007, 06:58:03 AM
Thanks for trying, Marcus, as well as the ideas - I'll see what I can track down today.

Did you get my email about this, plus the translation thing?
Title: Re: Edward Bowman & Son, Ltd.
Post by: selina on June 13, 2007, 09:12:00 AM
I had a search for you too....I use a search engine that combines a lot into one big search. Didnt come up with anything...

One other suggestion, although its time consuming. ...I have been tracing my family tree and you find a lot of information that way. Maybe a check on a Bowman family tree might give up some information. Occupations and anecdotes and all sorts are listed on the trees.

Trudy