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Title: 19thC Scandinavian vase?
Post by: Don Urban on June 21, 2007, 11:24:53 PM
http://i201.photobucket.com/albums/aa98/donurban/dogs04024.jpg

http://i201.photobucket.com/albums/aa98/donurban/dogs04022.jpg

This bowl was the property of Ole Bull a Scandinavian violin virtuoso.  Anybody know perhaps the style or signature of the maker?  It would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks,

Don
Title: Re: HELP
Post by: alexander on June 22, 2007, 01:35:42 PM
Ole Bull was Norwegian, born 1810 died 1880. That should help with timeframe at least.
Title: Re: HELP
Post by: David E on June 22, 2007, 03:40:30 PM
Hi and welcome to GMB. Very seedy glass, but here's an enhanced version of the image, if anyone can help:

http://glassgallery.yobunny.org.uk/albums/userpics/10058/signature.jpg

Negative of sig:

http://glassgallery.yobunny.org.uk/albums/userpics/10058/signature2.jpg
Mod note (to self!): too large images will be converted to links
Title: Re: 19thC Scandinavian vase?
Post by: David E on June 22, 2007, 03:47:58 PM
Don, I have converted the title of this thread so it encourages more people to look.

The name could be Harknen or Harlenen?

Ivo might recognise it.

Edit: Hadeland? Norwegian glassworks from c.1762, according to Ivo's book
Title: Re: 19thC Scandinavian vase?
Post by: Don Urban on June 22, 2007, 05:46:54 PM
Im new at learning the computer, I want to Thank you both for your reply and help.

Sincerely, Don Urban
Title: Re: 19thC Scandinavian vase?
Post by: alexander on June 22, 2007, 06:29:18 PM
It could be Hadeland but I wouldn't attribute it to H. just due to the sign.
Looks kinda like it starts with Hark... or Harle... from the "k" or "l" onwards it doesn't seem to match the "land" ending.

I haven't seen anything like this made by Hadeland from this period.

The green tinge and air inclusions in the glass reminds of me of 19th C. dutch glass.

Besides Norway, Ole Bull lived in Germany, France and USA, for several years in each place, and travelled extensively.
So an attribution based on nationality could be dodgy.

If this piece is in the US it could well have originated there.
Title: Re: 19thC Scandinavian vase?
Post by: Don Urban on June 22, 2007, 08:57:01 PM
Alexander, Thanks for info.
Sincerely, Don :)
Title: Re: 19thC Scandinavian vase?
Post by: Frank on June 23, 2007, 10:20:23 AM
The piece and the signature suggest Studio artist to me. 1980's plus
Title: Re: 19thC Scandinavian vase?
Post by: Hotglass on June 26, 2007, 11:43:16 AM
The piece and the signature suggest Studio artist to me. 1980's plus
I agree Ed.
Title: Re: 19thC Scandinavian vase?
Post by: Don Urban on June 26, 2007, 05:34:28 PM
Frank, I appreciate your thoughts, The 3x4" bowl has been in a collection since 1940's here in the USA.
Thank You, Don U.
Title: Re: 19thC Scandinavian vase?
Post by: pamela on July 10, 2007, 08:40:44 PM
very blonde as I am: häkenäs haekanaes? ???
Title: Re: 19thC Scandinavian vase?
Post by: Sklounion on July 10, 2007, 10:24:45 PM
Hi Don,
Do you have any paper that suggests how much earlier than 1940's? Does the collection have provenance-proving documentation? Was it a gift from Bull's family?
If Bull died in 1880, then this style of glass is unlikely actually to have been owned by him personally.
Owned/bought by a surviving family member is more likely.
One of the greatest problems is when folks arrive and say "Oh, it must be old, grandma died when she was ninety" and follows with "and I'm twenty-nine"... meaningless info, grannie dies at ninety, surfed the internet until 2005 and 363 days, but bought it the year before she died, at TK Maxx..... That does not, by any means, suggest the item is perhaps seventy years old, but it may well be more than seven days.......... This is where thorough research, not taking witness testimony, comes into play.
Provenance is now a major factor in any type of identification. You need receipts, gallery records, etc, artists, records..... all else is mere speculation, particularly with such an indistinct signature.
If Bull bought this, or indeed, received it as a gift, there may still be records of where and when. However, as a professional, I do not envy you the task of tracing that information.
Regards,
Marcus

Title: Re: 19thC Scandinavian vase?
Post by: Don Urban on July 16, 2007, 05:58:11 PM
Hi Marcus,
 Thank You for your advise, This items was in the estate of a family member. It probably is as you stated. No provenance Ill donate it to goodwill.
Thanks, DU
Title: Re: 19thC Scandinavian vase?
Post by: Sklounion on July 16, 2007, 07:21:11 PM
Hi Don,
Before you do that, ask if the inheritors of the estate, have any knowledge of surviving paper-work.
You may be very fortunate.
Good luck,
Marcus
Title: Re: 19thC Scandinavian vase?
Post by: Don Urban on July 17, 2007, 06:36:23 PM
Marcus,

Thanks,
DU
Title: Re: 19thC Scandinavian vase?
Post by: antiquerose123 on October 26, 2010, 11:55:56 PM
*Bump....

Was just in the Gallery, and saw this -- was wondering if the Signature could be * H. Anderson * ?  This is just a wild guess here, as the image of the item (bowl) is gone.

So I am just throwing this out there ---- as a mere suggestion on this (old)  2007 Post.

 :huh: