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Title: English? Drinking glass
Post by: Max on June 28, 2007, 03:34:14 PM

I'm keeping a lookout for little drinking glasses because I'd like to learn more about them - should buy a proper book really!

This one is 4" tall.  The base size is larger than the top rim, and both show nice signs of age wear.  The base has a concave pontil mark.  The knop (is that called 'bladed'?) I thought was machine made initially, but it's a bit wonky, so I suspect it's hand done.  Likewise the cutting to the underside of the bowl - that's slightly irregular too.

The glass has a greyish tint when viewed down through the stem.  So, my question is, is this English glass?  Any idea of age?

Thank you.   :)

http://glassgallery.yobunny.org.uk/displayimage.php?pos=-7680

Title: Re: English? Drinking glass
Post by: Sue C on June 28, 2007, 03:50:51 PM

Hi Max, it's quite normal for earlier drinking glasses for the foot to be bigger than the bowl, maybe a rommer, John Sanden;s book on glass is good. In a hurry right now, but will pop back later.

Title: Re: English? Drinking glass
Post by: Pinkspoons on June 28, 2007, 03:55:20 PM

The only books I have that cover drinking glasses are to do with Danish glass, but a few of the factories, especially Aalborg Glasvaerk, were producing very similar shapes between 1840 - 1900.

I'm not saying that the glass is Danish, but the output of Danish factories pre-1920 was often indicative of the shapes that were popular elsewhere in the world at that time and so they can be useful for approximating time periods of fads and fashions.

Title: Re: English? Drinking glass
Post by: Max on June 28, 2007, 04:22:20 PM

Thanks Sue, I knew about the base being perhaps an indication of age sizewise, but it's nice to have confirmation.  I wondered about it being a rommer/rummer too, but the bowl doesn't look quite big enough, although the glass is short...hmm!

Nic, I'd be pleased if it was as aged as that, I was hoping for that area.  It's a dinky little thing that I feel quite pleased with for 25p.  ;)  I think a collection of old glasses that I can use is in order soon.

PS:  I'll have a look for John Sanden's book Sue.  :D

Title: Re: English? Drinking glass
Post by: Tigerchips on June 28, 2007, 08:53:52 PM

Drinking glasses galore!
http://www.museumoflondon.org.uk/ceramics/pages/subcategory.asp?subcat_id=773&subcat_name=Drinking+Glasses

Title: Re: English? Drinking glass
Post by: KevinH on June 28, 2007, 11:10:54 PM

The only thing I can say for sure about this is that the knop is called "annulated" rather than "bladed" (which has just a single, horizontal "v" shape, with the point of the "v" sticking out). I would suggest this is a regular wine glass rather than a rummer.

Title: Re: English? Drinking glass
Post by: Max on June 28, 2007, 11:16:03 PM

Heavens Tiger!  That link will keep me occupied tomorrow!  Thank you.  :-*

Cheers for the 'bladed' correction Kev.  'Annulated' it is then - what a great word too.  :D  I think I'd go with ordinary wine glass.  They must have drunk less in those days...it wouldn't give me more than a couple of slurps.  ;)

Title: Re: English? Drinking glass
Post by: Dettmer on March 28, 2009, 07:20:43 AM

Hi Max

This is an English drinking glass circa 1820. The bowl is known as double-ogee and I believe its a port glass.

Georgian drinking glasses tend to have small bowls because alcohol was stronger.

Cheers

Dettmer

Title: Re: English? Drinking glass
Post by: Max on March 28, 2009, 06:07:55 PM

Wow!  Thank you Dettmer.  That little glass is in my kitchen cupboard, how lovely that it has such a good age to it!   :D

Thank you again.   :fwr: