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Glass Identification - Post here for all ID requests => Glass => Topic started by: Denidownunder on July 11, 2007, 05:17:15 AM
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Hi all - Greetings from Australia,
I have this amber glass bowl ,approx. 8" across and 3" high.
Some parts frosted, others clear.
Would anyone have any knowledge of maker / pattern /year ?
Any/all help is appreciated - thank you
all the best,
Ian :)
http://i166.photobucket.com/albums/u108/iann3200/amber001.jpg
http://i166.photobucket.com/albums/u108/iann3200/amber003.jpg
http://i166.photobucket.com/albums/u108/iann3200/amber002.jpg
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I think this design is generally considered to be Czech, possibly, and the pattern 1930s in origin. It seems to have been made over a fairly long period as the green stuff is found in uranium and non-uranium glass. It's a comon design here in the UK. Having typed all that there is a thought about Sowerby in my head but I don't have the time right now to check. I could be confusing two things. Will look later :-[ :-\ ???
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Hi Ian, i think i have seen this recently on one of our other members site, Sowerby 02689, but i could be wrong, someone with more knowledge will be along soon.
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Hi Christine and Sue,
many thanks for your interest and replys.
any extra info on this bowl would be great.
Once again, thanks,
all the best,
Ian :)
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It looks like Sowerby 2631, although I have reservations about the stippled panels. In my time (early '50s) we were making it without the stippling. The pattern number suggests origins in the early '30s, when the panels were, I think, sometimes acid etched. I would make a fairly wild guess and say that the stippling might have been done after I left as an alternative to acid etching which I doubt if Sowerbys ever returned to.
Adam D.
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I think the stippling is an illusion caused by the cloth underneath. :)
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Hi Adam ,
Hi Christine,
thank you both so much for your replies.
Adam, Christine is right in saying that the stippled effect is caused by the cloth underneath.
There is no stippling on the bowl.
So Adam, your Sowerby 2631 is most probably correct.
By the way Adam, is there a site that one can access to look at the different Sowerby glasses ,ie Sowerby 2631 ?
Once again, many thanks,
all the best,
Ian :)
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Glen, our carnival expert has published two Sowerby CDs see here (http://www.geocities.com/carni_glass_uk_2000/INDEXbooks.html)
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Hi Christine,
Wow !
Those CD's look great.
Very interesting indeed. Almost a must have.
thank you very much.
all the best,
Ian :)
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So Adam, your Sowerby 2631 is most probably correct.
Adam worked at Sowerby's when these were made so he most likely is. ;)
Incidentally, one of the CDs referred to earlier includes some of Adam's memories of his time there which make fascinating reading, and more of his remarkable insights on pressed glass making can be found here on the board in the Glass Archives forum.
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Hi Anne,
thank you for that ,
What a wonderful group of people you have here on your Board.
And what an excellent site to learn.
Its a credit to you all.
all the best,
Ian :)
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Ian, welcome!
This wonderful group meets on Anne's server AND Angela Bowey's : please scroll down! Angela and Anne are our STARS! :clap:
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Awwww thanks Pamela, but I'm just the tech support, Angela provides the hosting. 8)
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http://www.pressglas-pavillon.de/schalen/02689.html
http://www.pressglas-pavillon.de/schalen/02691.html
Hi Ian, many months ago I was told here that these are Sowerby 2631 too :D - thank you, Adam!
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Hi Adam,
thanks for that additional info.
Number 02689 looks identical in shape, but my piece seems to be darker ?
All this help that I'm getting is truly remarkable - thanks to all.
all the best,
Ian :)
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Hi Ian
Pamela's is in pink. It's a pattern found in amber, blue, pink, green (with and without uranium) and probably clear. There are stemmed dishes to go with the large bowl as well.
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Ian & Sue - I don't understand the reference "02689" - that isn't a Sowerby number. 2689 could be, but as all Sowerby numbers were issued chronologically, that would have been well after "my" time. I left in 1957 or 1958 and I think we were then up to around about the high 2650s.
Colours did vary a bit (I plead guilty!), but especially pink - a real swine to keep dead constant.
I don't think I have mentioned it before on the GMB but, apart from technical stuff on chemical compositions, I have zero records of Sowerby or Davidson. Everything is in my head - although, as everyone knows, all stuff learned up to the age of 25 or so sticks pretty well, thank goodness. However, I can now confirm that things like some of the less used pattern numbers (NOT 2631!) can start to get a little fuzzy as one approaches 80!
Adam D.
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The 02689 refers to the number of the item in Pamela's museum inventory, Adam. :)
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Hi Christine,
thank you for pointing that out (different colours)
And Adam, thanks for all that information you have provided, what a great memory you have!
all the best,
Ian :)