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Glass Identification - Post here for all ID requests => Glass => Topic started by: NazeingResearch on August 03, 2007, 10:38:39 AM

Title: Identify the Unidentified: Your chance to get some free glass
Post by: NazeingResearch on August 03, 2007, 10:38:39 AM
Over the next week I will be uploading photographs of all the unidentified glass we have here at Nazeing. Each picture will come with information on the size of the piece, to help identification. For every three items that you identify, we will send you a free glass gift as a token of our appreciation. The more pieces you identify, the better the gift will be. For example if you were to positively identify 20 pieces, you should be in for something very special. There are at least 200 items here that need to be looked at, so no matter how long you've been interested in glass, theres a good chance you'll find something in there that you recognize.

Where possible, please can you reveal as much as you can on the identity of an item, not just its maker. Designers, Pattern numbers, suite names, the years that it was produced, etc. All of that information is not strictly neccesary, but it can't do any harm!

Positive identification will be needed, not just maybes. We already have a long list of maybes for all of these items! Also if you know anyone from the board personally that only visits every couple of weeks or so, now might be a good time to give them a nudge so they can get something out of this too  :) .

Let the fun begin, and good luck!  ;D

p.s. (over the weekend I will set up a system where all the images are on one link with numbers that you can see easily, but in the mean time, here are a few direct links to get your started.

Unidentified Items:
1. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v97/rib13/Glass%20Messages/DSC_247523incheshigh7.3incheslong.jpg
2. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v97/rib13/Glass%20Messages/DSC_24745.2incheshigh10inchesdiameter.jpg
3. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v97/rib13/Glass%20Messages/DSC_24737.8incheshigh.jpg
4. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v97/rib13/Glass%20Messages/DSC_24726incheshigh.jpg
5. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v97/rib13/Glass%20Messages/DSC_24715.7incheshigh.jpg
6. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v97/rib13/Glass%20Messages/DSC_24708incheshigh.jpg
7. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v97/rib13/Glass%20Messages/DSC_24694incheshigh.jpg
8. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v97/rib13/Glass%20Messages/DSC_24684.5incheshigh.jpg
9. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v97/rib13/Glass%20Messages/DSC_24673.6incheshigh.jpg
10. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v97/rib13/Glass%20Messages/DSC_24664incheshigh5.2inchesdiameter.jpg
11. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v97/rib13/Glass%20Messages/DSC_24654.5incheshigh.jpg
12. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v97/rib13/Glass%20Messages/DSC_246432incheshigh5.1inchesdiameter.jpg
13. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v97/rib13/Glass%20Messages/DSC_246336incheshigh5.7inchesdiameter.jpg
14. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v97/rib13/Glass%20Messages/DSC_24614.5incheshigh.jpg
15. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v97/rib13/Glass%20Messages/DSC_24605.5incheshigh.jpg


Members with positive I.D's:
Example_Board_Member - 4 pieces identified (12,45,46,59)
Title: Re: Identify the Unidentified: Your chance to get some free glass
Post by: Frank on August 03, 2007, 11:19:37 AM
Many of those will also need a view of the bottom.
Title: Re: Identify the Unidentified: Your chance to get some free glass
Post by: Max on August 03, 2007, 01:58:22 PM
No.10 looks like Davidsons cloud glass in blue?

http://www.cloudglass.com/S1910.htm


...or is the foot different?
Title: Re: Identify the Unidentified: Your chance to get some free glass
Post by: nigel benson on August 03, 2007, 02:28:46 PM
Hello,

Frank is quite correct, we need pictures of the bases, and in order to be quite accurate we need measurements height and/or diameter.

However, despite this, on a quick run through, there are probable items, including Mdina and a piece courtsey of T K Maxx, Whitefriars/S&W, etc.

There are also definate items:

10) Is, as Max says, Davidsons Cloud glass
11) S&W bubbled amethyst
12) Whitefriars

It's good to see interaction with a Museum, but, I feel, odd that elementary pieces are being included for identification.

Nigel
Title: Re: Identify the Unidentified: Your chance to get some free glass
Post by: justphil on August 05, 2007, 08:56:24 PM
No. 6
There's one of these in "Is it Whitefriars ?" on the Whitefriars site, ref 1578. Someone has described it as "Stromberg". I have one myself so I would like to know more.

Phil
Title: Re: Identify the Unidentified: Your chance to get some free glass
Post by: Sue C on August 05, 2007, 09:48:34 PM
I have seen very similar one's to no 5 with clear stickers stating "hand made" for M&S, but not in this colour, usually pink or pale blue, not much help i'm :-\ afraid
Title: Re: Identify the Unidentified: Your chance to get some free glass
Post by: Cathy B on August 06, 2007, 02:03:28 AM
The dimensions will also help, if possible.
Title: Re: Identify the Unidentified: Your chance to get some free glass
Post by: Anne on August 06, 2007, 09:55:58 AM
Rob's included the sizes in the filenames but they're not so easy to see as if they were on the page.
Title: Re: Identify the Unidentified: Your chance to get some free glass
Post by: NazeingResearch on August 06, 2007, 11:45:42 AM
Woah! The format and photos up at the moment are just to get started on, otherwise there would be nothing to look at in this thread. I've nearly got the whole lot uploaded now, and they will be accompanied by dimensions. As it stands i havn't got photos of the bases of the items, and as you can imagine to take a photo of all of them, resize and uploading them all would take a good couple of days. Especially as they are all packed up in boxes now. However if there are particular items that you desperately "need" to see the bottom for id, then I will take odd photos as and when they are requested. I know its not ideal, but I really dont have the luxury of a couple days at the moment. I am pretty sure that there are no hidden signatures on the bottoms though, as many many pieces have already been identified this way.

Anyway check back tomorrow sometimes. They should all be done then
Title: Re: Identify the Unidentified: Your chance to get some free glass
Post by: Anne on August 06, 2007, 01:33:54 PM
Ahhh but it's not just signatures we like to look at bottoms for (if you get my drift!  >:D)  The way the bottom is finished can often tell those who are bottom-studiers quite a lot about a piece.  :D
Title: Re: Identify the Unidentified: Your chance to get some free glass
Post by: pamela on August 06, 2007, 07:02:35 PM
Rob, obviously I am blonde, where is the link to glasses # 16 to # 200 please? (some of these already matched?)
Thank you!
Title: Re: Identify the Unidentified: Your chance to get some free glass
Post by: NazeingResearch on August 07, 2007, 12:02:48 PM
sorry everyone for the slow start. As requested, I have now taken a picture of the bottom of EVERY SINGLE unidentified item. I will post them all up, once uploaded which I am doing now and post. Keep checking back!
Title: Re: Identify the Unidentified: Your chance to get some free glass
Post by: ChrisStewart on August 07, 2007, 05:21:47 PM
Hi,

No. 10 is a Davidson 1910MG flower bowl in blue cloud glass. It was made between 1925 and 1932.

Regards

Chris
Title: Re: Identify the Unidentified: Your chance to get some free glass
Post by: Cathy B on August 08, 2007, 07:42:08 AM
Rob's included the sizes in the filenames but they're not so easy to see as if they were on the page.

Oh, I see, snuck into the file names! Too clever for me :)
Title: Re: Identify the Unidentified: Your chance to get some free glass
Post by: Bernard C on August 09, 2007, 07:48:43 AM
Rob — Delighted you have a name now, much easier for everyone.

Were tumbler 9 and jug 16 from the same set, with photographs taken in different lighting conditions, or are they quite different?   These styles are notoriously difficult to attribute, but there is always a better chance with the combination of a jug and tumbler.

Quote from: nigel benson
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11) S&W bubbled amethyst
12) Whitefriars
... odd that elementary pieces are being included for identification. ...

Whatever Nigel says, there is nothing elementary about attributing these bubbled pieces, which requires considerable experience.   You are fortunate to receive the benefit of his rare skill in this respect.

Bernard C.  8)
Title: Re: Identify the Unidentified: Your chance to get some free glass
Post by: pamela on August 09, 2007, 08:25:22 PM
THANK YOU BERNARD and NIGEL! :-*
Title: Re: Identify the Unidentified: Your chance to get some free glass
Post by: nigel benson on August 16, 2007, 10:58:56 AM
Rob,

What's happening? The Museum's opening ain't far away and we're all waiting to help :)

BTW, have you asked for help from, Andy McConnell, who I understand from Stephen is the Museum's consultant? If you haven't already done so, would that not wittle down the numbers you have to put on the board and so save you time?

Kind wishes, Nigel 
Title: Re: Identify the Unidentified: Your chance to get some free glass
Post by: NazeingResearch on August 17, 2007, 12:49:12 PM
Hi nigel. Sorry everyone for the hold up. Things havn't been going as smoothly as planned. I had a rushed visit to the broad house museum this week and my nan passed away, which along with the funeral has not helped. You're right to bring up andy, as he is visiting on tuesday. He should be able to pick out a fair few, which will make things alot easier. The photos are all uploaded at present, and after he's visited I shall put them on here. Again I apologise for the delay. Also I've jsut checked my email and have read yours Nigel. Stephen is in a meeting at the moment, but as soon as he is out i shall talk with him about specifics and get right back to you.
Title: Re: Identify the Unidentified: Your chance to get some free glass
Post by: Anne on August 17, 2007, 01:39:39 PM
Rob, my deepest sympathy on the loss of your Nan. Glass pales into insignificance besides such things.  People always are more important, the glass can wait.
:hug:
Title: Re: Identify the Unidentified: Your chance to get some free glass
Post by: nigel benson on August 17, 2007, 02:22:56 PM
Hello again Rob,

How sad for you. I add my deepest sympathies to Anne's and wish you strength through such a difficult time.

I was around your age when I lost the only grandparent I knew (my Nan)and I well recall the wrench.

Take care and be well, Nigel