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Title: Large handkerchief vase + 2 others
Post by: Anne E.B. on August 10, 2007, 08:55:22 AM
http://glassgallery.yobunny.org.uk/displayimage.php?pos=-8128
David - any thoughts on this one please?  It's 5 and a half inches from base to tip of point, with a thin band of white around top and white inside.  This was bought with two others which both measure 4".
http://glassgallery.yobunny.org.uk/displayimage.php?pos=-8127
TIA ;)
Title: Re: Large handkerchief vase + 2 others
Post by: David E on August 10, 2007, 12:17:26 PM
Another success!

The first is a very scarce model: all the milk glass ones are scarce, adn teh first ever produced by Chance, but are more often seen at 7-in. tall. The 5½-in. models (nearer 6-in. I think?) are quite sought after :clap:

The other two are fairly common patterns.

Yellow: is Bandel, Type-2

Maroon: Polka-dot pattern but this colour is fairly uncommon. There is also a 'Chocolate' colour: I call these Choc & Cream as the background colour of these is slightly creamier :D

Yours does look maroon, but it is hard to tell unless they are side-by-side.
Title: Re: Large handkerchief vase + 2 others
Post by: Anne E.B. on August 10, 2007, 03:18:27 PM
Yippydoo ;D Thanks David ;)  I won't tell you what I had to resort to to get all three clean - particularly the large yellow.  You'd be horrified if you knew BUT it worked >:D  Della knows. I think you'd also be shocked if you knew how much I paid for them too... teehee ;D

I'll check on the polka-dot one again.   It looks really maroon in the picture although I must admit I thought it looked brown ('chocolate').  I'll get a second opinion.  Its one of those colours I have difficulty with, along with navy and black.

Title: Re: Large handkerchief vase + 2 others
Post by: David E on August 10, 2007, 04:17:49 PM
Well, they are quite tough, but avoid a wire brush and bleach ;)

I have noted a Choc & Cream in Polka-dot unless my dodgy eyes mistook them. I also have a 'maroon' one and thought I had both colours to compare, but you might be able to tell by comparing the white background.

In all likelihood, the two colours were probably the result of changing to a different batch of paint, rather than a deliberate attempt to create another colour, however the Gingham models are quite different because the stripes go in opposite directions!

Posted is a photo that's as clear as mud (or chocolate)

(http://glassgallery.yobunny.org.uk/albums/userpics/10058/thumb_posy-vases-stack.jpg) (http://glassgallery.yobunny.org.uk/displayimage.php?pos=-8132)
Title: Re: Large handkerchief vase + 2 others
Post by: josordoni on August 10, 2007, 04:27:41 PM
THAT  is a very very clear photograph David, and I am off to change the description on my chocolate-that-now-turns-out-to-be-maroon gingham....I can't tell you how long I hummed and ha'd over which colour and it seems that I still got it wrong.... I didn't know about the direction of the stripes! 

Thank you very much!!

Title: Re: Large handkerchief vase + 2 others
Post by: Della on August 10, 2007, 04:42:30 PM
Well, they are quite tough, but avoid a wire brush and bleach ;)


 ;D ;D ;D ;D ;)  :P
Title: Re: Large handkerchief vase + 2 others
Post by: Anne E.B. on August 11, 2007, 11:49:33 AM
Thanks for the picture David - it's really helpful. Mine is now definitely chocolate.  Something strange happened to the colour when it was placed next to the yellow one - and I don't suppose the black background helped either ::)

Glad to see I'm not the only one Lynne ;)
Title: Re: Large handkerchief vase + 2 others
Post by: David E on August 11, 2007, 04:03:15 PM
Just wished I could find both colours (choc and maroon) of polka-dot: they are both very dark, but I'm wondering if they are simply the same and I'm mistaken?
Title: Re: Large handkerchief vase + 2 others
Post by: josordoni on August 11, 2007, 05:34:58 PM
David - if you have a moment, would you mind checking out my handkerchief vase for me, in case I have made yet another error - I have just noticed on your Chance website that you say that the chocolate gingham has been seen with the stripes the same way....

I have put a link in the Marketplace section.

thanks!
Title: Re: Large handkerchief vase + 2 others
Post by: David E on August 11, 2007, 05:46:22 PM
I would call that maroon, although it does look a little like chocolate (milk, as opposed to continental :)). The other Gingham (which I call Choc & Cream) is darker and has vertical stripes.
Title: Re: Large handkerchief vase + 2 others
Post by: josordoni on August 11, 2007, 08:06:29 PM
Thank you David! 

I don't know, I reckon everyone's eyes see these dark colours differently anyway....  :o
Title: Re: Large handkerchief vase + 2 others
Post by: Anne E.B. on August 13, 2007, 10:23:07 AM
Just wished I could find both colours (choc and maroon) of polka-dot: they are both very dark, but I'm wondering if they are simply the same and I'm mistaken?

Would it help if I sent you the chocolate polka-dot?  Seeing them together in the flesh might confirm one way or the other.

Anne
Title: Re: Large handkerchief vase + 2 others
Post by: David E on August 13, 2007, 11:15:56 AM
Thanks Anne, but I can't help thinking it's the same colour as mine. I'm sure I did distinguish the difference between the two colours, like the Ginghams, so will have to look out again.
Title: Re: Large handkerchief vase + 2 others
Post by: firestone on August 17, 2007, 05:13:41 PM
Hi there,
Have two of these milk glass vases, one yellow, one red but both in the large size; will now hunt for a smaller one!.
Regards,
Firestone.
Title: Re: Large handkerchief vase + 2 others
Post by: David E on August 18, 2007, 08:50:47 AM
There's also ones in black as well! I still have to spot one of the smaller ones in red.
Title: Re: Large handkerchief vase + 2 others
Post by: David E on September 04, 2007, 09:24:32 AM
Hot on the heels of this... a smaller red milk vase was recently sold on eBay for £40. It's reasonable to expect that Chance made all three colours in both sizes.
Title: Re: Large handkerchief vase + 2 others
Post by: Anne E.B. on September 06, 2007, 03:33:04 PM
David, did Chance ever make handkerchief lamp shades?  I'm only asking, because there were a couple recently on ebay described as being possibly made by Chance.  It was difficult to tell though from the picture.
Title: Re: Large handkerchief vase + 2 others
Post by: David E on September 06, 2007, 03:45:22 PM
Well, yes... and no!  ::) :angel:

I'm pretty sure I know the ones you mean and mentioned to the seller that I was certain these were not made by Chance. There have been other cases of lampshades being wrongly attributed to Chance, but after discussing this with the former general manager (1959-81), he confirms the only ones Chance made, were experimental and merely involved modifying large 7-in handkerchief vases with a hole drilled in the centre. Good idea, but Chance never progressed this.

BUT, before everyone sneaks off and starts wrecking perfectly good handkerchief vases, there were only a very few converted, and probably none that ever survived (apart from one in aforesaid gentleman's garden, which he kindly dug up for me as proof! ;D)

So if any of these converted vases do ever appear, I would be extremely sceptical that they were genuinely intended to be lampshades.
Title: Re: Large handkerchief vase + 2 others
Post by: Anne E.B. on September 06, 2007, 05:43:29 PM
Well, yes... and no!  ::) :angel:
BUT, before everyone sneaks off and starts wrecking perfectly good handkerchief vases, there were only a very few converted, and probably none that ever survived (apart from one in aforesaid gentleman's garden, which he kindly dug up for me as proof! ;D)

Leeks or rhubarb?  ;D

Recently at a carboot sale I spotted what looked like (from a distance :o), large Chance handkerchief vases but they turned out to be old lamp shades made from plastic, which was disappointing.    
Title: Re: Large handkerchief vase + 2 others
Post by: David E on September 06, 2007, 07:48:25 PM
Think he was trying to grow some more... "get yer ripe juicky hanky vases, only 50p a kilo"