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Title: Festive Glass HR Rosco
Post by: josordoni on September 18, 2007, 11:39:59 AM
I succumbed to these little Festive shot glasses because they were in their original box.

But I can't find anything about them anywhere - there is an HR logo, and a "Rosco" product under that - who is the actual maker, and roughly what date - I am assuming 60s?

Here is the gallery:

http://clarkagency.co.uk/clicpicsept/festive/_local_festive.htm
Title: Re: Festive Glass HR Rosco
Post by: David E on September 18, 2007, 03:19:58 PM
1960s is a fair estimate. But do you mean the actual maker of the glass, or the company who decorated them?
Title: Re: Festive Glass HR Rosco
Post by: Frank on September 18, 2007, 05:00:43 PM
Hoskins Rose used Rosco as a trade name at least in 1950 (courtesy the Glass-Study).

Glasses could be imported, or not. Decoration could have been done by glassworks or a specialised decorator, even Pirelli or Vasart - although not saying they did..
Title: Re: Festive Glass HR Rosco
Post by: Heidimin on September 22, 2007, 11:02:31 AM
What a fab box - I can see why you fell for it.

There seems to be a lot of decorated glassware from this period - mainly transfer-printed, gilded or frosted - which was sold without any branding on the boxes. I think one clue is on the box: "decorated in UK", which to me implies that the glasses themselves were probably made somewhere else. France has to be one strong possibility - lots of tableware production exported to the UK at this time.
Title: Re: Festive Glass HR Rosco
Post by: Frank on September 22, 2007, 01:05:25 PM
Pirelli used a lot of French blanks. Some British too.
Title: Re: Festive Glass HR Rosco
Post by: David E on September 22, 2007, 03:18:28 PM
Doesn't glass of this era have a country name stamped on the base, unless it is British? If that was the supposed international convention, it could be United Glass, for example?
Title: Re: Festive Glass HR Rosco
Post by: Frank on September 22, 2007, 05:18:01 PM
I think that only applied to end products and these could be argued as components. Pity really, save us so much discussion and it might even have helped many national glass industries to survive better!
Title: Re: Festive Glass HR Rosco
Post by: josordoni on September 22, 2007, 09:21:01 PM
1960s is a fair estimate. But do you mean the actual maker of the glass, or the company who decorated them?

Well anything at all really.  I had not thought about the fact that the two might have been separate!  :ac1:
Title: Re: Festive Glass HR Rosco
Post by: josordoni on September 22, 2007, 09:22:06 PM
Hoskins Rose used Rosco as a trade name at least in 1950 (courtesy the Glass-Study).

Glasses could be imported, or not. Decoration could have been done by glassworks or a specialised decorator, even Pirelli or Vasart - although not saying they did..

That would fit as the box has HR initials above the Rosco.  Thanks Frank!
Title: Re: Festive Glass HR Rosco
Post by: josordoni on September 22, 2007, 09:24:20 PM
What a fab box - I can see why you fell for it.

There seems to be a lot of decorated glassware from this period - mainly transfer-printed, gilded or frosted - which was sold without any branding on the boxes. I think one clue is on the box: "decorated in UK", which to me implies that the glasses themselves were probably made somewhere else. France has to be one strong possibility - lots of tableware production exported to the UK at this time.

Good point about the decorated in the UK thingy.  The glasses themselves are very un-special, and I have certainly seem them with different transfers and that coloured frosty banding that was very popular in the 50/60s - David, I think you showed a Johnson Matthey advert with the special transfers for that in an older post?
Title: Re: Festive Glass HR Rosco
Post by: josordoni on September 22, 2007, 09:26:14 PM
Doesn't glass of this era have a country name stamped on the base, unless it is British? If that was the supposed international convention, it could be United Glass, for example?

I'd never thought to look on the base (duh!!  :spls:) ...it says France embossed on the base ... so one down....

Thanks again David!
Title: Re: Festive Glass HR Rosco
Post by: Frank on September 23, 2007, 11:50:15 AM
Actually that is two down, Made in France, Imported by Hoskins Rose and possibly decorated by them or to their request. I think they would have announced if they had their own decorating shop and so far I have not seen such an announcement.