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Title: makers mark on glasses can anyone id for me please?
Post by: Cazza on September 26, 2007, 11:25:48 AM
I have some champers flutes which have an S etched on them, I think they look like Stuart would that be correct or do you need a photo.
thanks in advance
Title: Re: makers mark on glasses can anyone id for me please?
Post by: Ivo on September 26, 2007, 11:34:55 AM
or Skruf or Spiegelau - depends on the S
Title: Re: makers mark on glasses can anyone id for me please?
Post by: Cazza on September 26, 2007, 11:41:17 AM
Oh will put a picture then
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Post by: Cazza on September 26, 2007, 12:01:55 PM
here are the pics
Title: Re: makers mark on glasses can anyone id for me please?
Post by: Ivo on September 26, 2007, 01:32:37 PM
try this link:
http://www.glassmessages.com/index.php/topic,6156.0.html
Title: Re: makers mark on glasses can anyone id for me please?
Post by: Cazza on September 26, 2007, 03:49:02 PM
Cor  ;D thanks for the information. i am well pleased I think I have four of them and will be listing on ebay any day soon.
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Post by: Bernard C on September 26, 2007, 04:50:41 PM
Cazza — Don't forget that as well as the various glass categories there is an Ocean Liners category under collectables on both ebay.co.uk and ebay.com.   I will be interested to see how your lovely glasses perform.

Bernard C.  8)
Title: Re: makers mark on glasses can anyone id for me please?
Post by: Cazza on September 26, 2007, 06:41:29 PM
Hi there Bernard
thank you for your help, i hope to use some of your words, i use auctiva and its down at the moment. doh. never mind. I knew they were quality, and on looking again i have 6. think i should list in twos.
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Post by: Cazza on September 28, 2007, 03:01:11 PM
Hi again
I have been sent this message regarding the glasses and wondered what you made of it please? Can you advise me please?

Hi there,
just trying to be helpful. I have quite a large collection of White Star Line glassware and have seen very much more. None of them have the "S" mark and all of them have the acid etched burgee in a prominent position.
I live 2 miles from the Redhouse Cone near Stourbridge where there are many pieces of White Star Line glassware on display. All of them match the ones I have, all have the acid etched burgee and non have the "s" mark. I do hope this is helpful. Indeed if I can be of any more help please do not hesitate to contact me.
Title: Re: makers mark on glasses can anyone id for me please?
Post by: Bernard C on September 29, 2007, 06:22:44 AM
Carol — Please advise your correspondant to look at the link below, as it could well be the same person:-

http://www.glassmessages.com/index.php/topic,16940.msg101485.html#msg101485

Also, I have taken a look at your eBay listing, and have several comments.

  • 1.  By extracting my material from its context and changing its sequence it no longer makes any sense.
  • 2.  It no longer has the protection of my copyright notice.
  • 3.  Nowhere did I suggest that your lovely glasses were sold on board the White Star line —  I merely stated that John Stonier & Co. of Liverpool were principal wholesalers to the shipping lines, including the White Star line —  quite different.

  • With material of this length and complexity it is much better to ask potential buyers to read the material for themselves and draw their own conclusions.

    Much better to delete all those now meaningless extracts in your listing and replace them with something like:-

  • For more information on these lovely glasses, please read my original query on www.glassmessages.com at
     http://www.glassmessages.com/index.php/topic,17542.0.html
    and an informative discussion on the "=S=" mark at
     http://www.glassmessages.com/index.php/topic,6156.0.html
    My thanks to Bernard Cavalot and the other contributors to these topics for their help.

  • Finally, I am sure that the other contributors to these topics would agree with me that you should not use or link to any of this material if you wish to claim that these glasses were sold on board White Star liners.   Why do that?   They are just as romantic whatever liner they were sold on.

    Bernard C.  8)
    Title: Re: makers mark on glasses can anyone id for me please?
    Post by: Cazza on September 29, 2007, 06:57:17 AM
    Hi there Bernard
    So sorry, was not thinking, will change the ad asap. Please accept my apologies. I was trying to give lots of info thats all.
    Cazza
     :'(
    Title: Re: makers mark on glasses can anyone id for me please?
    Post by: Bernard C on September 29, 2007, 07:41:13 AM
    Cazza — All OK now.   Those rather awkward eBay categories don't help, do they.

    Bernard C.  8)
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    Post by: Steelman on September 29, 2007, 04:01:30 PM
    Hi Guys,

    Yes I'm the same guy that posted about the Stuart Crystal - White Star Line patterns and the chap who has been "talking" Carol re the eBay list of glassware

    I'm going to try to put a picture on here of a few of my pieces of WSL glassware so that you may see the type ot things that they carried.

    As far as I can remember (and I'm only talking pre 1934/5 ships now) in my experience I have not come across any "sold aboard" table glassware items such as glasses, vases, and the like.

    I have obviously seen a lot of ships glassware but I have my doubts that these were ever on board any ship.

    Carol - the eBay listing looks ok but the category it is in is not doing the glasses any justice. I guess if you want to link it to the White Star Line / Titanic then fair enough but it may do better elsewhere.

    Cheers

    Ray
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    Post by: Anne on September 29, 2007, 10:51:20 PM
    Discussion about category listings split off to here: http://www.glassmessages.com/index.php/topic,17575.0.html
    Title: Re: makers mark on glasses can anyone id for me please?
    Post by: johnphilip on October 01, 2007, 08:13:17 PM
    Stonier also supplied boxed sets of Stuart glasses to White Star Lines main competitor Cunard Steamship Company.ie RMS Queen Mary.These were often given as prizes to winners of onboard competitions and deck games,the boxes carried the Stuart and Stonier name but the glasses carried the fully etched logo of The Cunard Steamship Company and not the Stuart mark.there maybe some with Stuart marks but i have not seen any.good night and happy hunting as long as you are not in front of me.JH.
    Title: Re: makers mark on glasses can anyone id for me please?
    Post by: Cazza on October 01, 2007, 08:22:30 PM
    Thanks for that JH and very funny as well  ;D I am useless at jumping the queue aswell ask my Mum she always tells me off. Lifes to short to worry about who is infront, better to worry about whos behind you. lol Just joking thank you for the information. Learned something today. Night, night/ :sleep:
    Title: Re: makers mark on glasses can anyone id for me please?
    Post by: Sue C on December 09, 2007, 06:25:46 PM
    Seem's Stuart where involved with the Queen Mary in the sixties

    ebay 190180873309
    Title: Re: makers mark on glasses can anyone id for me please?
    Post by: Cazza on December 09, 2007, 08:11:51 PM
    Very interesting information. This keeps going and going, hope some more items turn up. :D