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Title: Hi, Painted Urn Vase..Victorian?
Post by: selina on October 18, 2007, 03:51:59 AM
Hi all,

I recently purchased this vase / urn. It was stated it was 1930's which I doubted, I thought maybe Victorian? It does glow softly green under a black light. I have no idea of a maker either...thinking maybe this was a generic style for that day and age? Stunning handpainting though.
Just over 31cm tall. I'll welcome any comments on it.

Selina
Title: Re: Hi, Painted Urn Vase..Victorian?
Post by: Lustrousstone on October 18, 2007, 06:25:38 AM
 :mrgreen: :mrgreen: Oh, that's a really nice one, uranium glass as well!! I think you should send it over here so I can have a closer look  ;). It could very well be of the Victorian era, this style and shape were certainly in vogue then, but it may be a little later. Continental Europe is a good bet, Bohemia very possibly. I'm not sure anyone knows "who", I haven't seen anything definitive.
Title: Re: Hi, Painted Urn Vase..Victorian?
Post by: heartofglass on October 18, 2007, 08:14:51 AM
What a lovely vase! :) Congrats, Selina, on a great buy! :clap:
The painting is of very good quality & really visually appealing. The uranium is a bonus, too.
It is Victorian, I'd say later in the period, 1880s-1890s & Bohemian.
This style was made by many manufacturers over a long period. The vases were often in pairs.
This vase, to me, looks like a fine quality example of the style.
Title: Re: Hi, Painted Urn Vase..Victorian?
Post by: selina on October 18, 2007, 12:06:41 PM
Thanks Christine, Marinka :)
Christine you can have a look if you come visit Oz.. :)
Marinka...Pairs! pairs! oh wouldnt that be lovely.. Im enjoying looking at this one over and over ...two would be wonderful.

Selina
Title: Re: Hi, Painted Urn Vase..Victorian?
Post by: Lustrousstone on October 18, 2007, 12:53:28 PM
Thank you for your invite, are you paying? Those nice one don't go cheap. Have a look on ebay.uk under opaline for completed auctions.
Title: Re: Hi, Painted Urn Vase..Victorian?
Post by: josordoni on October 18, 2007, 01:22:39 PM
What a lovely vase! :) Congrats, Selina, on a great buy! :clap:
The painting is of very good quality & really visually appealing. The uranium is a bonus, too.
It is Victorian, I'd say later in the period, 1880s-1890s & Bohemian.
This style was made by many manufacturers over a long period. The vases were often in pairs.
This vase, to me, looks like a fine quality example of the style.

Hi Marinka, I think some of these painted vases are French also?  - it was a very fashionable High Victorian style, that can be found on ceramics as well.

Title: Re: Hi, Painted Urn Vase..Victorian?
Post by: heartofglass on October 18, 2007, 01:30:41 PM
Hi Lynne,
Yes, I know that French manufacturers did this type of "opaline" glass with hand painted designs also.
As I think has been said, this style was fashionable for quite a while, & widely made, in the Victorian era.
The quality varies a lot, but this vase looks very good.
I feel that this one is a Bohemian though, due to some very similar items pictured in Truitt's "Collectible Bohemian Glass 1880-1940".
Title: Re: Hi, Painted Urn Vase..Victorian?
Post by: Ivo on October 18, 2007, 01:37:23 PM
Bohemian 1880-1910 is spot on.
Title: Re: Hi, Painted Urn Vase..Victorian?
Post by: josordoni on October 18, 2007, 01:55:56 PM
Bohemian 1880-1910 is spot on.

Hi Ivo, can you and Marinka give me some pointers for differentiating between French and Bohemian painted glass please?

thanks!

Title: Re: Hi, Painted Urn Vase..Victorian?
Post by: selina on October 19, 2007, 08:03:22 AM
Thank you all! Great to have a date and origin. I saw a similar one listed as Moser? Very, very similar. Im very happy with the price I paid for it. Under $50Au. A bargain I think. :)

Chris, if I win Lotto I'll let you know!! LOL

Selina
Title: Re: Hi, Painted Urn Vase..Victorian?
Post by: Lustrousstone on October 19, 2007, 06:31:09 PM
I think Moser is wishful thinking and yours was a very good price. Similar vases, but not quite such nice painting, in the "antique" centre near where Anne lives are four times that price - mind you they were still there last time I looked. The prices on that stall are a bit OTT for the type of antique centre, more Chester than the old Hornsea factory in Lancaster.

Bet you don't even do the Lotto  ;D ;D
Title: Re: Hi, Painted Urn Vase..Victorian?
Post by: Ivo on October 21, 2007, 11:20:31 AM
French opalines tend to be bright colours in solid material, with heavy feet & polished out pontil marks, ormolu mounts, gilding etc.  while the Czech variety is mould blown with a broken pontil. The colours are often drab, milk coffee like and the painting was done in cottage industries, not the professional workshop so you get a wide divergence in quality.  There is no comparison, really. As for Moser, that seems to be american slang for "czech" - I am sure they will deny all involvement.
Title: Re: Hi, Painted Urn Vase..Victorian?
Post by: josordoni on October 21, 2007, 11:44:46 AM
Thanks Ivo, that's useful to know.