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Glass Identification - Post here for all ID requests => Glass => Topic started by: Frank on October 22, 2007, 11:11:47 AM
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Has anyone got information on this company, based in Coalbournbrook Glassworks, Stourbridge.
Ivo lists them c1900-c1925.
Not in Hartmann, so presumably not marked.
BGbtW mentions them as making mottled glass and reproduction glass.
Timberlake (on this board) suggests that they made some of the Nazeing look-alikes.
Were the Hill Ouston suppliers?
Some examples from a 1935 pottery gazette advert: (Courtesy The Glass-Study)
(http://www.glasscatalogue.com/components/com_virtuemart/shop_image/product/dde348092341322e59eef906761b1c6b.jpg) (http://www.glasscatalogue.com/components/com_virtuemart/shop_image/product/c2ae968edff90e349c7fd081471b22d8.jpg)
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There are nine individuals with the name Haden listed in Jason Ellis' Glassmakers of Stourbridge & Dudley, 1612-2002 but no company. The sole mention of a William Mullett is named as working at Thomas Webb in the cameo department, c.1890.
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Delving deeper...
"The Premier Glassworks [Brettell Lane] is associated with the Haden family..." It seems to suggest a starting date of its involvement from 1886, although the works was operating before this.
Not sure if this is relevant, but might be linked to the family name.
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See also Hajdamach illustration and text pp311–315.
Bernard C. 8)
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Skipped that one because of its cut-off date :-[ , I obviously need to get an index of it into the Glass study sooner rather than later. But now I am puzzled further by Charles only comment on the firm. Still no closer to when they began or closed down! 1925 to 1935 is a certainty.
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Frank — I'm glad you read Hajdamach like that. It seems to me that Hajdamach was just presenting the evidence, without drawing any conclusions. I read it that he wasn't certain whether HMH was an operational glassworks in the '20s, or a non-manufacturing wholesale operation, or some combination of the two.
That central epergne in his illustration could have been made by Fratelli Toso, still making English Victorian epergnes in the 1950s, although the examples in the Fratelli Toso factory reference collection all have side flutes rather than baskets.
Bernard C. 8)
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Frank,
I don't know if your using the term mottled to cover what is said on page 111 of BGBtW, or whether your information is from another page. Just in case, I draw your attention to the entry on that page.
I do know that in Charles H's long awaited sequal book, on 20th Century British Glass, he will have an entry on Haden, Mullet & Haden. Although he showed me some illustrations he was proposing to use, sadly, I'm not privy to what he has written :(
I bought a part of Jack Haden's archive a couple of months ago, but I haven't come across any information about the company in the books and pamphlets I'm afraid - many of which I've never come across before. I'll keep looking as he had lots of obscure material and it would be good to find any detail that could be helpful.
Nigel
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Nigel & Frank — I found these two PG advertisements on an archive disk — some kind person sent me them years ago.
Could one of these ranges be HMH's mottled range?
These advertisements look like reasonable evidence in favour of Haden, Mullet & Haden being a manufacturing glassworks in 1939.
I hope that is useful.
Bernard C. 8)
http://glassgallery.yobunny.org.uk/displayimage.php?pos=-8615
http://glassgallery.yobunny.org.uk/displayimage.php?pos=-8614
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The Missing Link :huh:
:o Lightning fast Bernard :mrgreen:
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Wow! Interesting... thanks Bernard.
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Frank — Thanks, but no trouble. I had wondered whether it was you who sent me the two image files in the first place!
Bernard C. 8)
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Hi,
Thanks Bernard.
I am certain that the picture with the epergne is the one that Charles H showed me a few months ago. Brilliant.
The first picture with the footed bell, or trumpet form vase, confirms what I've been suggesting to folks, without proof, but by looking from the known to the unknown, for well over a decade now - H,M & H - superb :) BTW that vase comes in green and deep pink/red as well.
Great to have an idea of date and, even better, an insight into their work.
Thanks again Bernard.
Nigel
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Also show more 'modern' cut design in 1931 PG.
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Hi Frank,
PG 31 ?
Is this a particular issue? If so, which month is it please. Or, are you referring to the 'year' book "Pottery Gazette & Glass Trade Review"?
A picture of the "Modern" glass would be really useful :) :)
Thanks, Nigel
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Hello again,
Tried to edit my last post to read 'Modern' cut design , but took something like 20 minutes under "loading" - so I gave up.
Nigel
PS
To the moderators. I have had this same problem on other occasions.
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The year book, it is a bit fragile so scans will have to wait until I convert the entire volume for the Glass-Study.
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Thanks for the confirmation Frank.
Nigel