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Glass Identification - Post here for all ID requests => Glass => Topic started by: gracie on October 28, 2007, 03:27:28 PM
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These lamps are fairly old by the wiring. They look like candlesticks. There is a label on the bottom of one that is handprinted OHNC, which may mean nothing. I don't even know what to call the bases....bubbles, marbles...??? I also don't know what to call the ornate design on the stems. I am not sure if the flowers came with them. I have been looking for 3 days online and have not found anything that looks like these. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks, Gracie
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Try searching boopie
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Hi Gracie, and welcome to the board. Frank's suggestion of boopie comes from Anchor Hocking in the USA who made glasses with a similar-patterned foot. The foot pattern is called boopie. You can see an example of the boopie foot on a goblet in the first post in this topic: http://www.glassmessages.com/index.php/topic,3016.0.html whilst from an earlier topic here on the board: http://www.glassmessages.com/index.php/topic,3302.0.html it seems that similar patterns were made by several companies:
... Rudolf Schrotter's ... "Boule" of 1935, ... why so many companies seem to have made it as "Candlewick"?
A few examples:
Libbey,
Imperial
Anchor Hocking,
Hughes
Clambroth
It is also useful if you put your location into your profile as that can also help us suggest makers depending on where you are and where the item was acquired. Hope this helps a little. :)
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Thank you Frank! After your response, I spent a bit of time looking up Boopie, but my lamps seem to have a lot more little beads, marbles, balls going up the base, where it looks like Boopie just has them around the rims. I have emailed a Fire King website and asked for help also. Thank you again!!!! Gracie
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Thank you Anne! It is quite obvious that I am new at this.....hahaha I appreciate all the help I can get!!!
First of all, I live in the US. The lamps belonged to my boyfriend's mother. She lived in Virginia all of her life. They were always in a box, and I remember my boyfriend saying that he felt they were worth something. This is also the man who saved used motor oil and stopped the car on the highway to pick up broken lawnmowers, old doors and such.....hahaha.....probably why I loved him so much!!!!! Sadly, he died in 2006, so I can't ask about them. I have absolutely no idea where his mother got them.
I will check out your other suggestions.....THANKS AGAIN!!!!! Gracie
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Are the flowery bits attached?
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Hi Frank!
The leaves and blossoms are glass, on a wire. I am not sure if they are part of the original lamps or not. My guess would be yes.....but what do I know!!!!
Thanks, Gracie
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Perhaps a picture or two showing them both standing would be useful. A closer view of the column would be interesting too, as I cannot tell how it is finished. Check the light fitting for any identifying marks, not conclusive but it helps to get a date - if they don't match then at least one is not original.
Actually identifying lamps is very hard without a catalogue as most were made for lighting companies and the glassworks stayed in the background. But these are distinctive.
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Frank, we have to stop meeting like this, people are going to talk......*wink*
Here are two pictures. I don't see any marks on the glass. The cardboard
socket is unmarked. The metal one is Eagle brand. It is 250W/250V, so may have
come from Europe--if it's the orginal socket.
I have heard from Phil at the Anchor Hocking Museum while checking out your "Boopie" suggestion.
rrglass@anchorhockingmuseum.com
"Boopie is usually a term used to describe the Berwick pattern made by
Anchor Hocking. The lamps are unique, but the bases were not made by Anchor
Hocking. There are many lamps made with this "boopie" style base, but I
don't know who made any of them. Sorry I can't be of more help, but I just
don't know who made the lamps or the bases.
Phil"
I also checked with some antique lamp dealers after your last post, and Jim Hoyle was nice enough to email me back.
http://www.hoylelamps.com/
"Thank you for your interest in Lamp & Home Outlet.
These lamps were likely produced circa 1950 and their value is around $ 100 total for the pair.
Back then these were referred to as "BOUDOIR LAMPS" (French for bedroom lamps).
They were often used on either side of the dresser.
I could barely see the sticker but I do not believe it is related to the maker.
Best Regards, Jim Hoyle"
I am still not going to give up yet. You might even see me in your neighborhood one day, knocking on your neighbor's doors, checking to see if their boudoirs are "lamped" or "lampless"......hahahaha
Gracie
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The socket with the tap switch is probably 1910-30 but I don't have any notes on that brand name. It does not look comfortable as the original. The other I cannot tell, but looks a more likely candidate for original. Does the cardboard tube slide off, taking it apart might reveal a name, but again it will be that of the fitting maker not the glass.
The style of the column makes a 50's date reasonable. Reminds me of Sklo Union design.
They are certainly interesting pieces.
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I know next to nothing about this kind of glass, so this is just a wild guess - Imperial Candlewick?
Shannon
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Hi Frank.....I appreciate all of your comments and help. I do not even count sheep anymore at night.....I count lightbulbs!!!!! YIKES!!!!
I checked on the lamp and the socket inside the tube has a porcelain base and on the bottom of it is
marked Paulding. Does that ring any bells???....or should I say "Do any lights go off in your head?"....sorry, bad pun....must be from lack of sleep.....hahaha
I sent an email to the the Sklo Union website. Wow, that stuff is really beautiful. Some of the vases are the closest thing I have seen to the designs on the stems of my lamps.
Thank you, Thank you , Thank you......Gracie
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Shannon,
Thanks for you comment. Anne left me a comment with several companies to look at, and Imperial was one of them. I checked them all out, and could not find anything that really resembled my lamps. I have also checked "candlewick", and no luck. The lead that Frank gave me on Sklo Union is the closest I have come to matching the stems on the lamps. I am waiting for an answer from them.
Thanks again, Gracie
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Gracie, you may not get an immediate answer from sklounion.com as he is away at the moment, so be patient. I'll flag up this topic for him to look at for you as soon as he is able to.
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Gracie maybe I can help since I'm in the US (Ohio) & have been selling lamps for years. First understand that US glass companies made glass parts for lamp manufacturers under subcontract. Parts were made in the millions & the glass manufacturers (and just about each & every glass manufacturer was involved) who made the parts for the lamp manufacturers typically did not keep records of any kind since the moulds were almost always provided by the lamp manufacturer & these were subcontract jobs for a specified number/type of part. They would make the pour for 1,000 bases, 1,000 columns, box & ship the parts to the lamp company who made the order. It's a waste of time trying to even estimate who/whom made the pour & US lamp buyers quite frankly do not care who made the pour or who the final lamp manufacturer was for commercial lamps. Yours could be anywhere from the mid-30's to early 50's. For instance Tiffin made both bases & columns almost identical to yours, but since they were subcontracted parts they are not considered to be Tiffin. Probably 90% (and thats a low estimate) of all US glass lamps were made in this manner. These are commercial vanity lamps that on eBay would bring on a very good day $40 for the pair. It may be different in Europe, but in the US this it how it was done. This does not include glass lamps that were specifically designed, made & cataloged by glass companies who made & sold lamps under the name of the glass company, Cambridge, Tiffin, Imperial, etc. but again we are talking less than 10% of the lamps being actually made, cataloged & sold by glass companies.
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Thank you Anne. I really enjoyed the Sklo Union website. I appriciate all of the help I can get!!!!
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Hi g-m-a! OUCH!!!! You really burst my bubble.....hahaha I think I will have to renew my relationship with my therapist and have already called in a re-order for my anti-depressants.....hahaha The next thing you are probably going to tell me is that there is no Tooth Fairy. In that case, I will just have to buy a shack in the mountains and live out my days in misery......hahaha
I may or may not ever identify these lamps, but I am having fun trying, and have met some really nice people along the way! I am also learning about types of glass that I never knew existed.....so, I guess for me, these little lamps are becoming priceless!!!! Identifying glass to me is like finding the last piece in the puzzle, and it actually fits!!!!
I appreciate all of the help and comments that are sent my way! Thank you!!!
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Hi,
I am sorry, I cannot add anything, as these items fall outside my area of expertise.
Regards,
Marcus