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Glass Identification - Post here for all ID requests => Glass => Topic started by: furrymischief on October 30, 2007, 03:33:07 PM
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And now for the 4th attempt :mus:
Does anyone have any information to offer on the pressed glass that I rather hope will appear below? It looks like Depression Glass & is usually listed as such on eBay UK but I've not been able to find it any of the dozen Depression books I have. It might be something else entirely.
It is always in "flint". I have never in seen it with any colour. Neither have I encountered anything besides dessert items: there is an individual dessert bowl below. An elongated version of this exists, which is presumably the serving dish. I also show a divided dish. The creamer of a sugar & creamer should be the 3rd pic. A comport is the most commonly encountered item. I might recall (but it could be just age) a teacup.
Any help would be much appreciated.
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I think we've had this on here before, nice clear pix BTW, and reached no conclusion. Anne might remember, I think she has a dish. I'll look later when I'm not supposed to be working ;D
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Thanks! BTW?
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by the way ;D
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Ah! :)
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Probably not a Depression item, more like EAPG, perhaps a moderator can add that to your title.
It is reminscent of a technique of mould making called Crystallograph/Crystalloid that dates to the 1879, I had a record of US patent 219245 but that seems to be wrong.
My piece is a tray "Psyche & Cupid" which is presumed to be Riverside Glass Works, Wellsburg, West Viriginia but the mold makers were a Washington Beck and Henry Feurhake of Pittsburgh.
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Is it the same as this one http://www.glassmessages.com/index.php/topic,3595.0.html (http://www.glassmessages.com/index.php/topic,3595.0.html). I can't find the post for Anne's lacy dish, even though I can remember commenting on the shape
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Sherdley we think. Heidi and I have been chasing this pattern for a while. Heidi found the link to the pattern in the Design Council archive - see this topic for the DC link and my creamer pic: http://www.glassmessages.com/index.php/topic,9204.0.html and I have a larger oval bowl as well as a creamer in the same pattern (just like yours.)
Christine, I thought you won the three bowls mentioned in this topic, or is my memory failing me totally? (Entirely possible!)
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Frank:
The correct patent number for the Feurhake and Beck patent is 219240 issued September 2, 1879. There are a number of EAPG patterns that used their technique. Many of the depression era patterns such as Madrid, Cameo, Florentine etc. were produced with moulds prepared using techniques that provided designs similar to those produced many years earlier under this patent.
Given the divided dish, this pattern could not be EAPG. These didn't show up until many years after the EAPG era was over (circa 1910 or so).
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I think the basic moulds for these must have come from the same place because if I couldn't see the pattern I would swear from the shape that they were Madrid by Federal Glass 1932-1939
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That's what I was told by some US glass folks too Christine, but this pattern seems to be unknown on their side of the pond, but does show up in the UK's DC archives, so it looks like it was produced by Sherdley either as a copy or under licence perhaps. I've seen a fair few of the bowls like mine around here.
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Many thanks to all for their information - but what, please, are the "UK DC archives"? Also, I've seen Sherdley named a few times on this website but I don't know anything about them. Can you enlighten me?
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DC is Design Council (as mentioned earlier up this topic.) Their archives are at Brighton Uni and are accessible online... also see the topic mentioned earlier up the topic (http://www.glassmessages.com/index.php/topic,9204.0.html).
Sherdley was a part of the United Glass Bottle Co (who were also known as UGB), as was Ravenhead (of whom you probably have heard.) If you put Sherdley or Ravenhead into the search box on the board you will find quite a few topics about their glass. UGB were based at St Helens just outside Liverpool, and the company had, I believe, the first automated drinksware making machinery in this country. Famous designers associated with them include Alexander Hardie Williamson, and John Clappison (of Hornsea Pottery fame), and Annette Meech who also contributed significant designs to their range. They were responsible for some of the best-known everyday glassware ranges, such as the dimple pint pub tankards, the White Fire fruit sets, Apollo glasses, a whole range of transfer-printed glasses, and a raft of other stuff. You'll find topics about all of these folks here on the board if you search. Happy reading. :)
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Thank you. I must read correspondence more closely! My excuse is that for the past 5 days I've been offline most of the time, as after an abortive attempt to instal a ZyXEL modem, Internet Explorer hangs every time I attempt to use it. That was after, of course, the failure of the BT router but before the power pack packed up . .. This is being tapped out haltingly on a borrowed laptop. There doesn't seem to be an appropriate smiley.