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Title: Is this Caithness
Post by: Sue C on November 07, 2007, 01:26:25 PM
Hi, i have this paperweight which is marked E II R   in the central bubble is a crown.
                                                         1952-1977
                                                                 2333
It isnt marked Caithness, but i have a feeling it may be, any advise?
                                                             
                                                               
Title: Re: Is this Caithness
Post by: Frank on November 07, 2007, 02:08:37 PM
Is the EIIR on the base or on a facet - it took a lot of tweaking to get it visible. A profile view may help, but it is not Caithness style of marking. Mark is sandblasted through a stencil but the 2333 by stylus.
Title: Re: Is this Caithness
Post by: Sue C on November 07, 2007, 02:34:17 PM
Hi Frank, the etching is on the base, a frontal view givws a cloud of purple an outer rim of six smallish bubbles and one larger bubble, in the center is one large bubble with a crown in the center, thanks for replying.

BTW, thank's for the tweeking  :)
Title: Re: Is this Caithness
Post by: Sue C on November 13, 2007, 08:41:25 AM
Bump, any ideas anyone  :huh:
Title: Re: Is this Caithness
Post by: stellar.artois on November 14, 2007, 10:50:28 AM
It looks like Selkirk to me Sue :)
Title: Re: Is this Caithness
Post by: Sue C on November 14, 2007, 11:20:09 AM
Thank you so much  :)
Title: Re: Is this Caithness
Post by: cfosterk on November 14, 2007, 06:03:26 PM
Sue,

Forgive me for stating the obvious but this looks to be CT71 Jubilee Crown Bubble designed by Colin Terris in an edition size of 3000 - that makes sense if you've got a stylus showing the number within that edition size...
Title: Re: Is this Caithness
Post by: Frank on November 14, 2007, 10:46:30 PM
Looks likely, lousy pic in Charlton though. Does anyone else have one?
Title: Re: Is this Caithness
Post by: stellar.artois on November 15, 2007, 12:20:43 AM
No but at least I wasn't far off  :D

I was thrown by there being no ID on the base other than design name. That's very unusual by the time they got to 77 (and PH branched off).

Well Sue, it looks like it IS Caithness, and book price is £60 (though realistically it is more likely to be £30-£45) :)
Title: Re: Is this Caithness
Post by: Sue C on November 15, 2007, 08:38:44 AM
So my first hunch was right, thank you all so much, although most of my glass will not be with me for long, due to a lack of space and a nagging husband  :cry:
Title: Re: Is this Caithness
Post by: cfosterk on November 15, 2007, 02:43:07 PM
Sue,

What do you mean not for long? Its a shame if you're going to have to sell your glass collection!

I presume ebay? If so place make sure you post via the market place!!
Title: Re: Is this Caithness
Post by: tamefox on November 18, 2007, 05:22:00 PM
Hi folks,

The first use of ecthed markings like these was in 1977, presumably introduced for the anniversary weights, to give an air of formality.

Having said that, some have this etching (like Crown Bubble and Jubilee Moonflower), but others are still fully hand engraved (like several Jubilee floating crown examples I've seen).

It's not clear what the policy was (if any) but 1977 Lobster has also been seen etched  with the three-row etching:
'Caithness'
<name of weight>
Scotland

Etching was then introduced to all unlimited weights in 1978, and some limited weights.
It seems to be random whether Limited weights were etched or hand engraved- but it may be Perth/Wick variances

andy_n

Title: Re: Is this Caithness
Post by: Frank on November 18, 2007, 06:15:02 PM
Are you sure its etched, looks more like sandblasted with a stencil.
Title: Re: Is this Caithness
Post by: tamefox on November 18, 2007, 08:22:44 PM
oops - perhaps loose terminology....   ..or different varieties of etching...?

I use the term 'etched' to mean any kind of eroding technique (are the definitions used in discussion on here more tight than that?)

Etching  on metal can be by sand erosion or laser or acid etch,


In this case (CG paperweight base markings)  I mean etched by sandblasting with a stencil - not acid etched.....


andy_n