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Glass Discussion & Research. NO IDENTIFICATION REQUESTS here please. => British & Irish Glass => Topic started by: dinklepip on November 14, 2007, 07:29:27 PM

Title: Corrrr aint this lovely !!! Cakestand - ID = Sowerby 2725 Tyneside
Post by: dinklepip on November 14, 2007, 07:29:27 PM
Look what I found at my local car boot.  :hiclp: :chky: Tis in a fab ultramarine/kingfisher blue colour and stands 8".  Now then my dears, I can't find out the maker... would you believe lol.  It has a reg number to the base and I have  my suspicions that it may well be American.  Has the reg no. 879707 on the underside base.  Think it's around 1950.  Don't think it's earlier, can't find anything in my American Depression books.  Can anyone help please taaa
Title: Re: Corrrr aint this lovely !!!
Post by: Anne on November 15, 2007, 03:25:58 AM
Ohhhh interesting. That looks to be the same top part as my mystery compote here:
http://yobunny.org.uk/gallery1/displayimage.php?pos=-6 and TC has a bowl in the same design on yet another stand here: http://glassgallery.yobunny.org.uk/displayimage.php?pos=-2456. I've also seen small bowls (like in a fruit set) to match. I think these are English, but so far I've not run them to earth.
Title: Re: Corrrr aint this lovely !!!
Post by: Frank on November 15, 2007, 11:09:14 AM
I presume the number is on the metal, that would probably give the fitting maker which might help in deciding the maker.
Title: Re: Corrrr aint this lovely !!!
Post by: dinklepip on November 15, 2007, 11:52:20 AM
yes Frank the number is on the underside base of the metal fitting.
Title: Re: Corrrr aint this lovely !!!
Post by: dinklepip on November 15, 2007, 11:53:08 AM
Ohhhh interesting. That looks to be the same top part as my mystery compote here:
http://yobunny.org.uk/gallery1/displayimage.php?pos=-6 and TC has a bowl in the same design on yet another stand here: http://glassgallery.yobunny.org.uk/displayimage.php?pos=-2456. I've also seen small bowls (like in a fruit set) to match. I think these are English, but so far I've not run them to earth.


yes Anne, looks exactly the same to me
Title: Re: Corrrr aint this lovely !!! Cakestand - ID = Sowerby 2725 Tyneside
Post by: Anne on January 14, 2011, 10:53:28 PM
Sowerby 2725 pattern. :) Matching dessert set shown here: LINK (http://www.20thcenturyglass.com/glass_encyclopedia/glass_catalogues/sowerbyglass_catalogues/sowerbyglass_catalogue_list41-06.htm)
Title: Re: Corrrr aint this lovely !!! Cakestand - ID = Sowerby 2725 Tyneside
Post by: shugdens on January 15, 2011, 02:18:40 PM
What year is the number?
Title: Re: Corrrr aint this lovely !!! Cakestand - ID = Sowerby 2725 Tyneside
Post by: Anne on January 15, 2011, 06:04:23 PM
After 1954 is the closest I can get it. It's not shown in the 1954 catalogue, the later catalogues are hand-annotated as 1950s and 1960s (so no definite date known) and the 2725 pattern appears in them.
Title: Re: Corrrr aint this lovely !!! Cakestand - ID = Sowerby 2725 Tyneside
Post by: shugdens on January 15, 2011, 07:58:00 PM
After 1954 is the closest I can get it. It's not shown in the 1954 catalogue, the later catalogues are hand-annotated as 1950s and 1960s (so no definite date known) and the 2725 pattern appears in them.
hmmm strange the Rg number is earlyer...
Title: Re: Corrrr aint this lovely !!! Cakestand - ID = Sowerby 2725 Tyneside
Post by: Anne on January 15, 2011, 08:04:36 PM
The reg no. relates to the metal stand not the glass. The glass and stand would not have been assembled by Sowerby but by a 3rd party such as a wholesaler, retailer, or suchlike. The stands appear with glass from other companies as well.
Title: Re: Corrrr aint this lovely !!! Cakestand - ID = Sowerby 2725 Tyneside
Post by: shugdens on January 15, 2011, 08:21:19 PM
The reg no. relates to the metal stand not the glass. The glass and stand would not have been assembled by Sowerby but by a 3rd party such as a wholesaler, retailer, or suchlike. The stands appear with glass from other companies as well.
Still strange that a piece has been matched with another some 35 years later.
Title: Re: Corrrr aint this lovely !!! Cakestand - ID = Sowerby 2725 Tyneside
Post by: Lustrousstone on January 15, 2011, 09:26:07 PM
It may be a marriage. It may not.
Title: Re: Corrrr aint this lovely !!! Cakestand - ID = Sowerby 2725 Tyneside
Post by: Anne on January 15, 2011, 10:53:35 PM
Not really strange, as some of the metalware like some glass designs were made for a very long time.

But in  this instance they are pretty contemporary as Rd no 879707 on the stand dates from the 1950s too.
(1950 started with 860854 and 1960 started with 895000) In the mid-late 1950s this would have been very modern on both glass and metal counts.
Title: Re: Corrrr aint this lovely !!! Cakestand - ID = Sowerby 2725 Tyneside
Post by: shugdens on January 16, 2011, 06:43:38 PM
Not really strange, as some of the metalware like some glass designs were made for a very long time.

But in  this instance they are pretty contemporary as Rd no 879707 on the stand dates from the 1950s too.
(1950 started with 860854 and 1960 started with 895000) In the mid-late 1950s this would have been very modern on both glass and metal counts.
hmmm 86 is that late, i thought the rg nos were phased out during the war?
Title: Re: Corrrr aint this lovely !!! Cakestand - ID = Sowerby 2725 Tyneside
Post by: Anne on January 17, 2011, 01:54:59 AM
Nope, the Glass Association Blue Book listing only goes up to 1945 though. Look at the Quick Checklist on this page: http://www.great-glass.co.uk/glass%20notes/regnos.htm and you'll see which number starts off each decade through to 1990. :)
Title: Re: Corrrr aint this lovely !!! Cakestand - ID = Sowerby 2725 Tyneside
Post by: shugdens on January 17, 2011, 04:31:05 AM
Nope, the Glass Association Blue Book listing only goes up to 1945 though. Look at the Quick Checklist on this page: http://www.great-glass.co.uk/glass%20notes/regnos.htm and you'll see which number starts off each decade through to 1990. :)
I'm probbly getting confused with ceramic rg numbers. I need to read up more on these as I've 2 pieces to date.
I thought all rg numbers were stoped during the war. obviously not the case with glass.