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Glass Identification - Post here for all ID requests => Glass => Topic started by: selina on November 18, 2007, 09:36:04 PM

Title: Jacobean tumbler
Post by: selina on November 18, 2007, 09:36:04 PM
And...I also found the maker of another of my items on your site by reading the other links. My little glass that was painted by Etherden.. but made by Inwald. I'll have to revise my listing but all the better as I prefer to be accurate. Of course my glass isnt in carnival but frosted.

Update...maybe not..my regd number doesnt match.. mine has Jacobean Reg'd No 0701409? cant read it properly. Back to the drawing board.

Title: Re: Jacobean tumbler
Post by: Anne on November 19, 2007, 12:49:24 AM
Your reg no is 791409, which was registered by Clayton Mayers on 22 March 1934. The pattern is, as you say, Jacobean, but this pattern has an interesting story in that it was originally made by Inwald and then after 1932 by Davidson. At this reg no is from 1934, this piece will most likely be a Davidson piece. For the story of Jacobean, who made what and when, have a look at Chris Stewart's history of Davidson Glassworks site here: http://www.cloudglass.com/ClaytonMayers.htm [Above info taken from Chris's site.]
Title: Re: Jacobean tumbler
Post by: selina on November 19, 2007, 06:58:18 AM
Thanks Anne :) Glass has to be one of the HARDEST things to identify with all the pattern selling and copies etc. Not that there isnt that in ceramics etc but glass truly is difficult to ID. Thank heavens for this site!
Title: Re: Jacobean tumbler
Post by: Glen on November 19, 2007, 04:30:48 PM
The Jacobean design (aka Lord aka Milord) did not cease to be made in Czechoslovakia post 1934. There was a period of transition when a range of around 300 Jacobean items were on offer in the UK; some of them being "British Made" and some of Czech origin. Some moulds were in use for quite some time at Rudolfova Hut.

Selina, your tumbler does not look like the Inwald shape. A useful indicator, by the way, that can help to ID Inwald glass is to see if the base has a mirror shiny grind. There were other patterns that looked a bit like Jacobean; the block patterns are undoubtedly tricky.

Glen
Title: Re: Jacobean tumbler
Post by: selina on November 19, 2007, 08:41:07 PM
Having a closer look at the Reg # its what Anne said  :)

 Because the glass is frosted it has a rough base, with only some smooth areas from wear I would guess. Certainly this little glass is a big learning curve for me.
Title: Re: Jacobean tumbler
Post by: Anne on November 19, 2007, 09:58:40 PM
Glen, thank you for explaining about the dates. The transitional nature wasn't obvious from Chris' site, so that's useful to know.  Are the frosted Jacobeans very common? I've not seen frosted ones before.