Glass Message Board
Glass Identification - Post here for all ID requests => Glass => Topic started by: Sue C on November 29, 2007, 04:04:11 PM
-
I bought a crystal vase that has a lot of wear to the base, but just visable to the outer edge is etched Edinburgh International, can anyone tell me when this mark was used?
-
Exhibition piece perhaps, is there a date?
-
Hi Frank, i cant see a date, and as i say, there is a lot of wear to the base, i was looking at the lip of the lieth piece i have and this is very similar, but also my Thomas Webb pieces have very similar cutting to the lip, if you know what i mean? .
I will post a photo tomorrow, and also see if i can get one of the mark, dont hold your breath!!
-
So far as I know, Edinburgh International means the blank was imported, normally from Czech Republic or France or other European countries, and it was cut in Edinburgh.
-
Mind you , I can see the direction that Frank is coming at this from.. there was an Industrial Exhibition in Edinburgh in 1886 (http://members.fortunecity.com/gillonj/edinburghinternationalexhibition/) - one of the many in Britain then, with the burgeoning Industrial Revolution. I have a glass tumbler from that exhibition I think in one of my many unpacked boxes... I'll try to rummage it out.
-
So far as I know, Edinburgh International means the blank was imported, normally from Czech Republic or France or other European countries, and it was cut in Edinburgh.
I'm afraid I didn't make this clear enough. I should have said:
So far as I know, Edinburgh Crystal used the mark Edinburgh International with imported blanks, normally from Czech Republic or France or other European countries, and did the cutting in Scotland.
This info came from someone who used to work at Edinburgh Crystal, but until there is an image cannot confirm whether this could be one of those pieces. If so likely to be post 1990.
-
Thank you Adam, and Lynne, photo's ASAP :-*
-
There was a question raised before and some indication that there are some puzzling remarks. There is a study being done so it would be good if we can get some verification of your info Adam.
So if Sue's piece has "... a lot of wear to the base ..." and it is modern then the wear is faked which is easy to recognise. Clearly how it is marked matters too as modern pieces are all sandblast marks as opposed to older etched. Pre Webb's taking them over they were unmarked. But it is possible.
Lynne very interested in your exhibition piece to go with its friends here (http://www.scotlandsglass.co.uk/cms/index.php?option=com_virtuemart&page=shop.browse&category_id=242&Itemid=51)
It is not usually possible to identify the makers/decorators, although I recently acquired a small glass with a Scottish etching, British registered design of 1894 and "Made In Sweden"
-
The large vase, i have had for years and has no mark, the smaller vase has the etched mark, sorry about the photo's, they are the best i could do.
-
Eddie King, who used to be production manager at Edinburgh Crystal, confirms that your is vase is an imported blank and machine cut at Edinburgh Crystal which is why it says Edinburgh International rather than Edinburgh Crystal. :)
-
Thank you Adam :-* there must be load's out there, but this is the first time i have seen this mark.
-
Adam, I would happily put up a page on Eddie, a copy of his CV would be good or more data if he is interested.
-
Sue — Great picture of the mark, new to me.
Bernard C. 8)
-
Thank you Bernard, if anyone want's to use it they are welcome.
-
.
Lynne very interested in your exhibition piece to go with its friends here (http://www.scotlandsglass.co.uk/cms/index.php?option=com_virtuemart&page=shop.browse&category_id=242&Itemid=51)
Frank I am sending you over the pics of the Edinburgh exhibition piece that finished tonight (http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=230198548760). I assume from its success that it was a good maker!
-
Gosh! A well documented piece, quite unusual. Thank you!
-
Can anyone ID the maker of the glass Lynne sold.
(http://www.scotlandsglass.co.uk/cms/index.php?option=com_virtuemart&page=shop.view_images&flypage=shop.flypage&product_id=2671&category_id=242&Itemid=51)
Marked "Vincent - St Louis - Made in Lorraine"
-
Oh doesn't it look good!
the details have come out really nicely. One of my better bits of photo work...!!
-
Hi Frank,
Clearly a Cristalleries de St Louis, Lorraine, piece, so Vincent was possibly the designer of the image, and as the piece has initials to the rear, probably reflecting the engraver.
Regards,
Marcus
-
Thanks. I had wondered but could find nothing linking St Louis to Lorraine. Lorraine is not even included as a region in a 1907 trade directory... should have Googled - sometimes surrounded by a pile of books to edit sites and forget to look on-line :-[
-
St Louis is one of the few towns in that area with a French name, most of the others are germanic in origin.
Regards,
Marcus