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Glass Identification - Post here for all ID requests => Glass => Topic started by: Anne E.B. on November 30, 2007, 08:53:15 PM
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Just a quickie - first time I've come across a piano rest with a mark on the top side:- the letter M with the letter C underneath, in a rectangle. Any ideas who it could be please?
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A pic would help as there are a lot of different types
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There's a CM mark which is Cristales de Mexico but this doesn't sound like something that would be mexican.
The WC westmoreland glass mark could look like a CM if viewed from the wrong direction.
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Anne — Interesting, and new to me (I think). Another to add to the Dawkins and Thomas insulators. Any chance of a photograph or two?
Bernard C. 8)
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http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y195/glassie/pianorest001.jpg
Thanks everyone :)
Just taken this pic. before seeing your posting Bernard, but if any more required, I'll be happy to do more. Measurements: 3 & a half inches diam. x 1 & a half inches high. The mark is very difficult to see and on my own gallery pic. it is quite clear, but not so when seen here. I think the 'rectangle' that I initially described, is more like a shield shape.
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Can someone remind me why pianos needed insulators?
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To stop the wheels sinking into a wooden floor. But it is just 'Piano rest' Insulator is another possibility as the objects purpose.
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Also sound insulation, I believe.
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Ah, I see. The floor I had understood, thanks Frank, it was the insulation bit I was lost on.
Yes, David, I can see that an insulator might cause all the sound waves to come from the piano into the room rather than down the legs through the floor.
Physics was my worst subject at school..... ::)
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Even Sowerby made them!
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I just added the word "insulator" because I believe that is what they are called in the USA. :)
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I came across two of these (different sizes) with the same mark this weekend and one of them had the additional marking "made in France" and "Reims". So I would think it is by VMC/ Verrerie Mécanique de Champagne in Reims, famous for champagne bottles and promotional ashtrays...
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Strange you should come up with that interesting fact, Ivo, as when I wrote my reply I wondered whether it could be a modern Continental version of an old design, like the modern French version of the Davidson dome flower block.
Anne, your insulator seems to be a version of the Dawkins insulator, made by Percival, Yates & Vickers for Thomas Dawkins of 4 Little Warner Street, Clerkenwell, London EC, probably piano makers / dealers, regd. 8 July 1859. It later appears with a concentric ring base, which might be by Sowerby, possibly early to mid C20, and then with a cross-hatched base like yours, unmarked on the upper surface.
I've had all three of these lined up together, and, apart from the bases, they are indistinguishable.
Bernard C. 8)
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Ivo - you are a star :hiclp: I had another look at the markings using a lens, and lo and behold, just above the letter M are two small lines which are parallel to the the V shape at the top of the letter M which I hadn't noticed before. These are not joined, but to all intents and purposes, would form the letter V immediately above the M i.e. VMC/Verrerie Mecanique de Champagne as you state. :hiclp: Hope that makes sense :)
Thanks too Bernard :hiclp:. I've got several piano rests in the garage somewhere and will compare this one to other similar "jelly" shape ones just for interest. I know some of them have concentric ring bases. This particular rest is in superb condition and if I didn't know better I'd say it was new. Most of mine have bruises or various degrees of damage because they've obviously been used.
Something that's always niggled me, are these still being made today or are they a thing of the past?
;)
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If you don't want to keep them Anne, they sell, even damaged, particularly when you put insulator in the title. Most of mine are happily living in the USA - except the uranium ones
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Thanks Christine :) It's going to a good home ;)