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Title: Cased Pelton Vase = Peloton
Post by: Nancy128 on December 08, 2007, 02:58:31 PM
Good Day everyone!  I've got a question for everyone.  There is a Woody Auction coming up in January and they have this Pelton Vase that's really neat!  I don't know anything about Pelton and in searching the internet nothing comes up.  Does anyone have some info on this particular person?

http://woodyauction.com/a73.jpg
Title: Re: Cased Pelton Vase
Post by: uphoosier on December 08, 2007, 03:51:47 PM
I think that should be "peloten", and it is the string glass application technique and not a person.  You should find plenty of info on peloten glass.
Title: Re: Cased Pelton Vase
Post by: Nancy128 on December 08, 2007, 03:55:35 PM
LOL!!!  I can't believe I didn't figure that out!  Thanks!
Title: Re: Cased Peloton Vase
Post by: Anne on December 08, 2007, 05:52:45 PM
Peloton glass is discussed here on the board:
http://www.glassmessages.com/index.php/topic,3680.0.html
http://www.glassmessages.com/index.php/topic,9074.0.html
http://www.glassmessages.com/index.php/topic,10649.0.html

Marinka (membername = heartofglass) has a particular interest in this type of glass so she may be able to help with more info.
Title: Re: Cased Pelton Vase = Peloton
Post by: Nancy128 on December 08, 2007, 06:27:43 PM
Thanks Anne, those were really helpful links.  In looking at that auction more clearly, there are several Peloten pieces being put up for auction!  Marinka has a wonderful collection!
Title: Re: Cased Pelton Vase = Peloton
Post by: Lustrousstone on December 08, 2007, 07:11:13 PM
There's some serious eye candy there, somebody had a very good eye. I need an awful lot of that glass... :st:

http://www.woodyauction.com/A%20Listing.htm (http://www.woodyauction.com/A%20Listing.htm)
Title: Re: Cased Pelton Vase = Peloton
Post by: Nancy128 on December 08, 2007, 07:57:02 PM
I know! Christine.  I'm thinking I'm going to have to try and go to this one.  If there is anything that is really off the wall that no one would recognize in a million years, let me know, I'll be sure to bid on it!  8)
Title: Re: Cased Pelton Vase = Peloton
Post by: Leni on December 08, 2007, 08:41:41 PM
I recently acquired this piece for Marinka. (I think I'm her UK agent  ;D)  It's on its way to Australia to her at the moment  :D   It looks pretty much identical to the one you intend to bid on, Nancy!  I'd be interested to hear what you have to pay for it, if you don't mind me asking! 
Title: Re: Cased Pelton Vase = Peloton
Post by: Nancy128 on December 08, 2007, 10:51:39 PM
Leni, WOW they sure could be twins!!  If I can go at the end of January I will be sure to let you know how much it went for, hopefully I'll be able to snag it!
Title: Re: Cased Pelton Vase = Peloton
Post by: Leni on December 08, 2007, 11:02:19 PM
I would LOVE to bid on so much of that glass!   :o   The vaseline green hanging basket on this page http://www.woodyauction.com/a426.jpg is just what I need for my 'thorn' frame!   ::)   :P
Title: Re: Cased Pelton Vase = Peloton
Post by: Nancy128 on December 08, 2007, 11:07:56 PM
If I go, would you like for me to bid on that lot?  Don't mind just selling you the Basket, if I win it.
Title: Re: Cased Pelton Vase = Peloton
Post by: heartofglass on December 09, 2007, 05:11:27 AM
WOW!!!!!! :clap:
What a fantastic collection of art glass!!!!! Thank you so much for bringing this auction to our attention, Nancy.
There were several peloton items there, all beautiful. The ruby lamp with threads (133) was particularly unusual.
I have around 35 peloton items in my collection, with a few more on the way, including the yellow gourd vase that Leni bought for me. Peloton is pretty rare, it has taken me 12 years of non-stop searching to get the amount I currently have (would have had a few more if I hadn't been outbid on a number of other ones).
Peloton was patented by Wilhelm Kralik on the 25th October 1880 whilst he was in the employ of the Harrach glassworks. The style was copied by other factories in Bohemia & also England. The original Harrach pieces tended to feature threads on a clear crystal ground. Some were also embellished with enamelled floral designs.
None of it seems to be marked (not that I've found, anyway) so it is pretty hard to identify. There are a lot of variations on peloton. It can involve the threads being on a number of different glass grounds; clear, clear coloured, cased opaque in white & colours such as pink, mauve, yellow, blue. Some has a satin finish & some is glossy. The threads may be standing proud of the surface creating a wiry texture, whilst on other examples the threads are marvered right in & have a soft blurry appearance. Usually peloton items are small & fancy, but I have recently acquired a very large & heavy urn vase (13 inches tall) in thick walled crystal with aqua blue threads.
This is just a great collection of art glass, stunning. Good luck with your bidding in the auction, & compliments on your good taste in liking peloton. It really is special! :)
Title: Re: Cased Pelton Vase = Peloton
Post by: Leni on December 09, 2007, 09:14:22 AM
If I go, would you like for me to bid on that lot?  Don't mind just selling you the Basket, if I win it.
How very sweet of you, Nancy!  :-*  I have no idea how much the lot might fetch, have you?  And if so, how much the basket alone would be worth? 
I think it's all a bit too complicated!  But thank you very much for the thought!  :hug:
Title: Re: Cased Pelton Vase = Peloton
Post by: Nancy128 on December 09, 2007, 12:45:41 PM
Marinka - I too saw #133 and thought it was unusual too.  Guess I'm really going to try and make that auction.  It's about a 6 hour drive from where I live, hopefully the weather will cooperate since it will be in the middle of winter!

Leni - That's just how I am!  :angel:  I like to share in good finds. 
Title: Re: Cased Pelton Vase = Peloton
Post by: Leni on December 09, 2007, 04:59:25 PM
Nancy, you are indeed a very kind lady  :angel:  :-*

If you could give me an idea of how much the lot is expected to fetch I might have some idea of whether it's practical or not!  Do they put reserves or expected prices on things?
Title: Re: Cased Pelton Vase = Peloton
Post by: Nancy128 on December 09, 2007, 05:26:31 PM
Leni, I've been to several Woody Auctions in the past.  Very rarely do they ever put reserves on items.  I've also bought multiples in a lot such as the one that you are looking at.  Just from my experience, when they have more than one item in a lot, they don't know what they have and/or just want to get it sold.  I've won bids as low as $75 and high end $125 with 4 or 6 pieces to a lot.  I really will bid on this and if I can snag it for $125 or under you can expect to only pay for 25% of what I get it for, plus a percentage of the 10 percent premium they charge.