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Glass Discussion & Research. NO IDENTIFICATION REQUESTS here please. => British & Irish Glass => Topic started by: Anne E.B. on January 04, 2008, 05:24:44 PM
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http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y195/glassie/003-4.jpg
This mould has the Reg.No.540734 and No.7324 impressed on the base, but the Reg.No. doesn't appear on Great Glass' list of Registered Design numbers. I've only been able to date it to c.1910.
Does anyone know the maker please? Also, the mould looks quite plain. Any ideas what it might have been used for?
TIA :)
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Looks more like a mould for potted meat or brawn to me. I'm sure I can remember seeing them in that sort of mould at the pork butcher when I was a child
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That's what I thought. Very Upstairs & Downstairs - with unidentifiable animal body bits in aspic :-X Although I do remember seeing brawn in posh butcher shops when I was young (not in Victorian times tho ;D) I googled aspic and found a website with recipes. According to them "aspic enjoyed something of a revival in the 1970s at dinner parties." I must have slept through that. I don't think I'll wait for another revival.
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... found a website with recipes. According to them "aspic enjoyed something of a revival in the 1970s at dinner parties."
They got it wrong UK revival was in the late 50s, my mother was really into it - I found the texture disgusting... food in slime. If they did it again in the 70s it was a 'retro' revival already ;D
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Hi Anne, from the depth's of my memory i seem to recall these were called "Bird Cage Moulds" but dont quote me !!
Try here http://www.historicfood.com/cake%20moulds.htm#balmoral they may be able to help.
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Anne - From what I can see of the inscription, and from the whole shape, it looks very like the same range as the individual portion sized creme caramel mould decorated on the outside (so you know it's not a below stairs demould) with a scallop motif, if my memory is correct. If it is, then it may well be the below stairs demould creme caramel mould for situations where equal sized portions were not necessarily appropriate, such as a family with young children. The well-equipped kitchen would have had both styles, to enable them to cater for either situation - indeed they may have been sold as 1+6 or 1+8 sets.
Unfortunately I can't remember the Reg No on the individual creme caramel mould, nor its registree. Would some kind soul pass this information on, please.
Bernard C. 8)
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Would someone please let me know if my previous reply makes sense, or is it gibberish? It reads OK to me, but then I know what it is supposed to mean!
Bernard C. 8)
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When I first saw this topic, I did look up the Reg. Design and noted that 540934 is very close, but this was registered by Walsh Walsh. Knowing very little about the company, and that Bernard is commenting, I didn't post a reply then as it seemed rather stupid - perhaps it is, but...?!
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Thanks for your comments folks ;)
It does look like a bird cage Sue - for a small song bird! :)
Bernard - its reads okay to me 8) but I'm not familiar with the term demould. It holds 1 pint of liquid, so I don't think this would be an individual portion size, but perhaps one of the family size ones you mention. Mind you, I personally could easily scoff a pint of creme caramel with no help at all ;D
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Anne, is it possible that you still have this? If so, can you add a closeup shot of the registration number please?
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Don't know if this will help but the closest in my book are
540695-Hancock & Corfield ltd,19/4/09 and 540737 J.Shuley,20/4/09,
Keith.
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Thanks for the info folks :clap:
I'm afraid I no longer have the mould, and this is the only image I have showing the reg.no. which you can just make out hopefully.
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Hi Anne,
I have six of these jelly moulds and noticed they had a registration number, so when I was at the London Archives checking on my hyacinth vases I looked up these jelly moulds as well. Just for fun really, I do not collect jelly moulds!
So this is what I found:
Registration number 699915
Registration date August 9th 1923
Description, A glass mould simply for packing food products
Archive Books BT 53/96 and BT 52/1014 (I have pictures of both)
There was no mention of an owner but with all the above, a keen researcher might be able to get hold of that as well.
Patricia
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Anne, I just noticed yours must be a big mould, mine are small (but they look very much the same).
I'm sure The Archives will tell you all about yours if you send them a picture. Might take some time but they always respond.
Patricia
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Thanks Patricia. Six jelly moulds sounds like a collection to me ;)
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Thanks Anne. :)
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See topic Charles Carpenter — Sutherland Brawn customised jelly mould (http://www.glassmessages.com/index.php/topic,47371.0.html).
Bernard C. 8)
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Thank you Bernard :)
I think I will give brawn a miss :-X
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Re, Patricia’s reply #12:
RD 699915 was registered by William A. Bailey on 9 August 1923.
http://www.great-glass.co.uk/glass%20notes/mana-b.htm
reveals that
Bailey, William A, London, England (c 1900 - c 1939). Described as 'Potter & Glass Manufacturer' in the register of designs (of which he registered 123 from 1903 to 1938). The only designs we know of (465660, registered 23rd September 1905, & 687205, registered 7th January 1922) were both mould-blown glass jars (for meat/fish paste or ointment), so he was probably a bottle manufacturer only.
Fred.
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this is a pic of the small one
m
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It's decorated on the outside, so it has to be for something other than jelly that is tipped out at the dining table. So it's an individual creme caramel mould, not a jelly mould.
Bernard C. 8)
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Hi Bernard
Could it also have been for a meat paste product though or is there something specific that makes it right for creme caramel please?
I don't own it any more but I'm curious to know anyway.
Thanks
m
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Coming back to this, I noticed that the RD no in the title and in t'other Anne's first post are slightly different - one has 7 digits, the other has 6 , so I went searching and I think the answer is as follows:
RD 547034 W A Bailey 04-Aug-1909
which would also correlate to Patricia's other post about moulds also by Bailey but with a different shape and numbers.
See also http://www.glassmessages.com/index.php/topic,56215.msg321728.html#msg321728 for another example of RD 547034
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Paul kindly looked this up at Kew, and here is his image which matches Anne's. :) http://www.glassmessages.com/index.php/topic,56215.msg364715.html#msg364715 (http://www.glassmessages.com/index.php/topic,56215.msg364715.html#msg364715)