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Title: Strange Object, German, Austrian, date? Whats it for??
Post by: Andy on January 23, 2008, 03:44:08 PM: A strange fun object, any ideas what it might be?
looks a bit nautical, i suppose its just a strange paperweight,
label Glas Kunstvoll gestaltet georgeshutte

Any comments welcome ;D
Andy
Title: Re: Strange Object, German, Austrian, date? Whats it for??
Post by: Frank on January 23, 2008, 05:52:08 PM: Candle holder.
Title: Re: Strange Object, German, Austrian, date? Whats it for??
Post by: David E on January 24, 2008, 09:13:22 AM: Would the label have gone inside the candleholder? I'm just wondering if it's shown upside-down.
Title: Re: Strange Object, German, Austrian, date? Whats it for??
Post by: Andy on January 24, 2008, 01:05:25 PM: I agree it could be used for candles (or fork 'andles ;D)
It is the right way up, to be honest i think its probably a desk ornament, maybe a
commercial gift, for someone in shipping, looks like the thingys on docks.
Actually ,theres something a bit similar in the Czech glass book,1945-1980, its by Jaroslav Beranek
for Skrdlovice, its a 'Bouy' with a similar piece of rope going through it . (page 194 if anyones interested)

I suppose i might stick it on ebay just for fun!
Cheers all
Andy 8)
Title: Re: Strange Object, German, Austrian, date? Whats it for??
Post by: Anne on January 24, 2008, 01:56:04 PM: Andy, is it real rope on yours or is it glass looking like rope?
Title: Re: Strange Object, German, Austrian, date? Whats it for??
Post by: David E on January 24, 2008, 01:59:10 PM: Fibreglass, by any Chance? ;) Might not such a silly suggestion as it is possible to wind glass fibres that tight.
Title: Re: Strange Object, German, Austrian, date? Whats it for??
Post by: Anne on January 24, 2008, 02:04:24 PM: David, that's what I was wondering too... ;)
Title: Re: Strange Object, German, Austrian, date? Whats it for??
Post by: Frank on January 24, 2008, 02:52:40 PM: Makes a lot of sense as fibre glass was big in Germany in the 30's on at least! Although not listed in this firms production

Here is the company (Courtesy Glass-Study, source ADG Nr.21 1925)

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Becker & Co., G., in Georgshütte bei Boffzen Braunschweig. Eisenbahn station Fürstenberg a. d. Weser. Fernsprech-Anschluß Amt Höxter 58. TA: Georgshütte Boffzen. Inhaber: August Becker.
Fabrikat: Hohl- und Schleifglas, Wirtschaftsgläser aller Art, Einkochgläser, gepreßte Seidel. — 1 Glasofen, 8 offene Häfen, System Siemens, Braunkohlen. Schleiferei mit 12 Werkstellen. Graviererei mit 2 Werkstellen. Dampfmaschine 20 PS. 80 Arbeiter. Stift für alte Glasmacher. (Gegr. 1855. )

Not in Ivo, nor listed in 1945 report on German Glass Industry. Also listed in 1935/36 ADG, states 100 employees.

1945 report states
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The glass fibre Works appear to be mainly in two organisations; A.G. der Gerresheimer Glashüttenwerke v. Ferd. Heye control plants at Düsseldorf-Gerresheim, Hamburg-Bergedorf (Oscar Gossler), Ettlingen and Bergisch-Gladbach; Glaswolle Kommanditges. W. Schuller und Co. operate plants at Coburg and in Thuringia and Sudetenland.

also Glasfaser G.m.b.H, Düsseldorf was the sales organisation for Gerresheimer fibre glass (Glasfaser) (1945 not 1935)

So it is seems unlikely to have been fibreglass.
Title: Re: Strange Object, German, Austrian, date? Whats it for??
Post by: Andy on January 24, 2008, 02:53:54 PM: Hi ,
yes , i think its fibreglass rope, certainly not old rope.

Actually , saying that, just gone to Wikipedia, I dont think mine is "natural fibre such as Manila hemp, hemp, linen, cotton, coir, jute, and sisal."
More likely " Synthetic fibers in use for rope-making include polypropylene, nylon, polyesters (e.g. PET, Vectran), polyethylene (e.g. Spectra) and Aramids (e.g. Twaron, Technora and Kevlar). Some ropes are constructed of mixtures of several fibres or use co-polymer fibres"

Im not 100% certain :huh:

Andy 8)
Title: Re: Strange Object, German, Austrian, date? Whats it for??
Post by: Frank on January 24, 2008, 02:55:42 PM: Ok easy test, straighten a paperclip, make the tip hot, push into rope (underside). If you get a rush of smoke and fumes it is not fibreglass.
Title: Re: Strange Object, German, Austrian, date? Whats it for??
Post by: Andy on January 24, 2008, 03:03:26 PM: Im on the case Frank ;)

I think its some sort of Nylon, cos it practically melted straight through :o

Andy ;D

(ps very little smoke or fumes)