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Title: Decanters/bowl's and vase's
Post by: Gilead on February 09, 2008, 12:03:14 AM
Hi All
        members i am new to this site and glass collecting in general, i have posted on here before a day ago, or under orange fruit or cake stand,
i have been on the hunt for more glass today and would appreciate the members opinion on  what i have came back with, most of the glass i am collecting is because i like the look of the glass, also i would like to find out about who and where they  where made and what year, so i hope you will shed some light on these for me, many thank,s (photo's to follow)

I hope to that i am not braking any rules in asking this way,  :-[
                                                                                      Regards
                                                                                       Gilead
                                                                                 
Title: Re: Decanters/bowl's and vase's
Post by: Gilead on February 09, 2008, 12:49:11 AM
Hi All
       The first piece of Glass is a clear Bowl it stands 6ins (150mm) high 5.5ins (140cms0 across and weighs in at 673grams.
       
        The second piece is a vase standing again 6ins high (150mm) 4ins (100mm) across its gold/pink with a blue tint, hard to say really but as you see its got a pineapple bottom, weighs in at 651grams.

         The 3rd piece is a Decanter standing 15.5ins high (390mm) with the cork in with out 11ins (280mm) center circumference is 14ins (360mm) and weighs in at 1619grams.

         The forth piece is also a Decanter this one standing 13.5 high (340mm) cork in with out 10ins(260mm) center circumference 14.5ins (370mm) weighs 1691.

i also have a larger bowl which i will post after this,
                                                                    regards
                                                                              Gilead
 
Title: Re: Decanters/bowl's and vase's
Post by: Gilead on February 09, 2008, 12:58:16 AM
Hi again
           This is the larger Bowl i mentioned before it stands 4ins high (100mm) and 10ins (255mm) across with 3small feet, on the bottom, as you can see from photo, weighs in at 1072grams hope all this helps to find who made and where with these item,s many thanks
                                                                                                                                                                    Gilead
Title: Re: Decanters/bowl's and vase's
Post by: glassaddict on February 09, 2008, 08:55:46 AM
Is the second one the same as the one discussed here?
http://www.glassmessages.com/index.php/topic,9115.msg77143.html#msg77143 (http://www.glassmessages.com/index.php/topic,9115.msg77143.html#msg77143)

Hil  :)
Title: Re: Decanters/bowl's and vase's
Post by: Lustrousstone on February 09, 2008, 08:59:13 AM
Hi you're are very welcome to post whatever you like (in glass) but you are much starting a new thread for each, particularly when they are so different. I can help you with one of them - your pineapple vase is an English Carnival (note the iridescence) by Canning Town Glass. See here for a thread http://www.glassmessages.com/index.php/topic,9115.0.html (http://www.glassmessages.com/index.php/topic,9115.0.html)


Snap!

Title: Re: Decanters/bowl's and vase's
Post by: Mosquito on February 09, 2008, 10:05:18 AM
Hello,

Your large bowl appears to be Davidson's 535 pattern, apparently late 1960s. See Chris & Val Stewarts site here: http://cloudglass.com/other.htm
Title: Re: Decanters/bowl's and vase's
Post by: Gilead on February 09, 2008, 05:12:54 PM
Hi Christine
               Thanks for the quick response so now i know it to be carnival Glass vase i tried to see apiture in the link you gave but it did not allow me, when out hunting yesterday, i also bought myself a Millers ANTIQUES price guide book but an dissapointed as it does not really account for this type of glass so think i need to get a more spercific book on glass? i have so much got the bug with this now i cant wait to go out and find more, thanks again, do you know much about the decanter and the bowl on the pedestal,
                                                                                                                                              Regards
                                                                                                                                               Gilead
Title: Re: Decanters/bowl's and vase's
Post by: Gilead on February 09, 2008, 05:19:50 PM
Hi Mosquito
                Thank you for taking time to identfy the large bowl as a davidson late 60s i took a look at your link and it,s a you say the same, i wonder how many were made and is ther a site i can log on to for davidsons Glass or any interesting sites, at all please, i have only got to make some nice shelves to display my finds now, so that is my task for the next few wk,s as well, i must say this is a very friendly and informative site glad i found you all,
                                                Gilead
Title: Re: Decanters/bowl's and vase's
Post by: Lustrousstone on February 09, 2008, 06:25:29 PM
Sorry Paul's picture has gone. Here is another good carnival glass site http://www.ddoty.com/ (http://www.ddoty.com/) You will find the Smoke version of your vase pictured here if you look around or do a search

Here is the start of the Davidson part of the cloud glass website http://cloudglass.com/History.htm (http://cloudglass.com/History.htm)

I know nothing about decanters. Is your pedestal bowl cut glass or pressed glass? It looks like it might be cut. Pamela's website is excellent for pressed glass http://www.pressglas-pavillon.de/index2.html (http://www.pressglas-pavillon.de/index2.html)
Title: Re: Decanters/bowl's and vase's
Post by: Gilead on February 09, 2008, 09:54:07 PM
Hi Christine
               have been looking though some books and on the internet but cant seem to find out about decanter any ideas please, the bowl seems cut glass, could be lead crystal?
                                                                                                                                           
                                                         
Title: Re: Decanters/bowl's and vase's
Post by: aa on February 09, 2008, 10:37:58 PM
Hi Gilead,

You'll find that http://www.carnival-glass.net/ is one of the most outstanding resources on Carnival Glass.
It is full of fascinating research and we are fortunate to have Glen Thistlewood as a long standing member of this board, who is often able to
help identify people's Carnival and other glass from her encyclopedic knowledge :)
If you click on the link "books and publications" you will find a number of Glen's excellent books.
Title: Re: Decanters/bowl's and vase's
Post by: Gilead on February 09, 2008, 10:59:49 PM
Thank you Glen & aa for the site you have pointed out am getting to learn more slowly, also may i thank Christine for pointing me in the direction of finding out about the Thistle Vase, in marigold from the Caning Town glass works Ltd, so thats one named thanks to your help, appreciated, think im going to really enjoy this glass collecting,
                                                                 Gilead,
Title: Re: Decanters/bowl's and vase's
Post by: Anne on February 09, 2008, 11:37:28 PM
Gilead, your tall decanter with the long stopper pic S6004381.JPG, no idea who made them, but I bought one brand new the exact same for my mother around 1981/2 in a gift shop in Edmonton, north London, so that gives you an age, pretty much.  (She still has hers and uses it regularly so it's a very familiar one to me.)
Title: Re: Decanters/bowl's and vase's
Post by: Gilead on February 09, 2008, 11:43:58 PM
Anne
       thank you very much for the info now i have a starting point, from which i can carry onwards and find out more, was just this moment going though the net looking after putting decanters in google,
                                                                            regards
                                                                             gilead
Title: Re: Decanters/bowl's and vase's
Post by: Glen on February 10, 2008, 08:53:30 AM
Adam, thank you for your kind words. They are greatly appreciated.

Gilead - the Thistle vase has indeed cropped up here before. The information re. the maker first came from the late Bob Clements (a Carnival collector) who used to work at Canning Town Glass Company. The marigold vases are not too hard to find. There are also just two smoke Carnival Thistle vases known. They were found at a fleamarket in Essex some twenty years ago and were both in our collection (i.e. the collection belonging to my husband and me) for a number of years. We still have one of them - the other was a personal gift to a very close friend of ours.

There is another vase known as Royal Pineapple that is similar to the Thistle in many ways, although a little taller. It is mainly found in marigold, although a smoke example is also known. Photos of all these and further information is all in "A Century of Carnival Glass".

Glen
Title: Re: Decanters/bowl's and vase's
Post by: Lustrousstone on February 10, 2008, 10:02:23 AM
The thistle vase is also found in clear, I had one
Title: Re: Decanters/bowl's and vase's
Post by: Glen on February 10, 2008, 10:58:51 AM
The thistle vase is also found in clear, I had one
Do you mean iridised clear? Or "flint glass" clear?
Title: Re: Decanters/bowl's and vase's
Post by: Glen on February 10, 2008, 12:36:44 PM
Another bit of information that I forgot to mention. The mould for the Thistle vase is at Broadfield House (or possibly Himley Hall, if they've moved it) - West Midlands.

Glen
Title: Re: Decanters/bowl's and vase's
Post by: Lustrousstone on February 10, 2008, 01:50:32 PM
Flint glass clear, although not a particularly good colour. I wonder what else Canning Town made
Title: Re: Decanters/bowl's and vase's
Post by: Gilead on February 10, 2008, 10:14:04 PM
Glen
       thats nice to now as im not far from Himley Hall so if the mould is there my thistle vase is not far from it,s parent so to speak, makes a bit of talking point for me to bore my son some more so he says, he just cant see the beauty and style in Glass collecting, and the pleasure you can get from looking at the curves and colour or appearance of the glass, each to there own as the saying go's thanks for the info,
                                                                                                                                                                     Gilead