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Title: MCG English Crystal any one heard of them?
Post by: Andy on February 15, 2008, 03:06:20 PM
Nothing special, its just bugging me , a box of 6 sherry glasses sitting in my cupboard
for years, just found a sticker in the bottom of the box, it reads
MCG English Handcut. and it looks like St Pauls cathedral on sticker, ive just googled , checked
a few web sites, cant find any thing :huh:
Any one heard of them? (box isnt that old, maybe 60s or later)
Cheers
Andy
Title: Re: MCG English Crystal any one heard of them?
Post by: Frank on February 16, 2008, 08:50:12 AM
Probably a decorating company.

One candidate could be Metropolitan Crystal Glass Works Ltd. Est 1955.
Factory 34a Potters Lane, Holland Park, London W11
Offices 45 Kensington Garden Sq, W2
Director H J Engell, sales D J Haynes

Boxed Glassware for presentations, Carafes, Celeries, Cocktail Sets, Decanters, Tableware etc.
data 1961 PG
Title: Re: MCG English Crystal any one heard of them?
Post by: Sklounion on February 16, 2008, 09:34:52 AM
Hi,
The Metropolitan Crystal Glassworks Ltd was only wound-up in 2005, and there is a possible contact given on the Companies House Dissolved Register, and MCG is shown as dormant.
It might be worth asking the contact for further information?
Regards,
Marcus
Title: Re: MCG English Crystal any one heard of them?
Post by: Frank on February 16, 2008, 10:45:57 AM
Nothing special...


Well, debateable. As virtually nothing known I would suggest hunting out and putting together more examples. Failing contact with anyone involved, the way to determine that it was an decorator is to ID the blanks. Quite possibly English or French or Czech. Often foreign blanks would be labelled as English even though only decorated. Company papers might reveal more personnel with an address - allowing relatives to be located. The wind up date can be many years, as much as ten years, after a company ceased business - particularly when it ran out of money and fizzled away with no-one to pay for the wind-up.

possibly related http://www.thefind.com/homefurnishings/info-Metropolitan-Crystal-Sconce

The online record lists them as "Wholesale of china, wallpaper etc." so probably gave up the factory at some time. The contact it gives is Dornberger Ltd who are wholesalers too might now be Chamotte Dornberger http://www.chomette.co.uk/
Title: Re: MCG English Crystal any one heard of them?
Post by: Anne on February 16, 2008, 11:14:59 AM
I found a listing from a 2006 auction in a Perth saleroom for some MCG glasses too yesterday whilst looking for info for Andy. Don't know if that's any help? (Link here = PDF file version of the catalogue: http://www.perthshireauctionrooms.com/Catalogues/94Catalogue.pdf - lot no 152, but no images.)
Title: Re: MCG English Crystal any one heard of them?
Post by: Andy on February 16, 2008, 01:28:25 PM
Thanks everyone,  ;D
it looks as if Metropolitan Crystal ,London is most likely, theres 4 patterns on replacements.com,
i cant see my pattern, but names like English, Tudor, and Regent, and factory/office in Kensington
and Holland Park, sounds very posh!
I think the Metropolitan lighting is in the USA, so not connected.

I will have another little dig around
Regards
Andy


Title: Re: MCG English Crystal any one heard of them?
Post by: Frank on February 16, 2008, 07:33:19 PM
I found a 1956 directory entry that confirms they were decorators.
Title: Re: MCG English Crystal any one heard of them?
Post by: Andy on February 18, 2008, 04:13:48 PM
Thanks Frank :D
Title: MCG - Metropolitan Crystal Glass Works Ltd
Post by: Frank on September 06, 2008, 08:26:34 PM
1955 to ? (Dissolved 2005)

Factory 34a Pottery Lane, Holland Pk London W1
Sales 48 Kensington Sq
M.D.: H J Engell
Sales: D J Haynes

Listed 1963 as decorators manipulators.

1959 list a full range of domestic glassware and novelties, plus hotel ware.

Bernard can we have a picture of your piece please.
Title: Re: MCG - Metropolitan Crystal Glass Works Ltd
Post by: aa on September 06, 2008, 08:34:19 PM
Importers and converters so far as I know. Famous for the "Sir" suite of contemporary wine glasses. Very simple cylindrical bowls on stems, bowls simply cut with vertical lines.
I think 2005 is probably correct.
Title: Re: MCG English Crystal any one heard of them?
Post by: Leni on November 12, 2008, 02:06:05 PM
Sorry to come to this thread almost a year late, but I have just found it while searching the internet for information about MCG and I thought this information might usefully be added.

Firstly, I apologise for the quality of the photographs, as I didn't want to take everything out of the display cabinet where they live.  I also apologise for my lack of precision with regard to dates. 

During the 1970's, '80's and '90's my husband and I were blood donors and plasma and platelets donors. Obviously he donated more than me because I was having children during those years, but we both achieved enough donations to be awarded not just the standard Wedgwood plate for 100 donations but the crystal paperweights for 250 donations.  Indeed, my husband went on donating and was awarded a cut glass goblet for 500 donations.  I do not know who made or engraved the paperweights, but I assume them to be the same as the goblet, which bears on its foot a clear plastic label saying 'MCG English Handcut'. 

At some time during the 1990's the 'National Blood Transfusion Service' as it was then known, became the 'National Blood Service' and the logo was changed. This whole reorganisation was very controversial, particularly as 'private sector consultants' were involved in the changes.  Many plasma and platelets donors were 'laid off'.  In addition, cut-backs meant that by the time my DH reached a total of 750 donations the award was reduced to just a small cut glass tumbler.  These were now made and engraved by Edinburgh Crystal.

I don't remember the exact dates, but I thought it might be useful for people to see the pictures, including the MCG label.
 
http://glassgallery.yobunny.org.uk/albums/userpics/10048/MCG_Goblet_and_paperweights.jpg
http://glassgallery.yobunny.org.uk/albums/userpics/10048/MCG_label_on_goblet_foot.jpg
http://glassgallery.yobunny.org.uk/albums/userpics/10048/Edinburgh_Crystal_tumbler.jpg 

I hope this is of some interest to members.
Title: Re: MCG English Crystal any one heard of them?
Post by: Andy on November 12, 2008, 03:12:51 PM
Leni,
of great interest to me in particular, i suffer from Haemophilia, and have been having Plasma and
Blood products for all of my 48 years!
So, a great big Thankyou to you and your Husband for your wonderful contributions,
 :hug:

Maybe its from you i got my interest and love of glass  ;D

Thanks !   :fwr:   :fwr:  :fwr:

Cheers,
Andy
Title: Re: MCG English Crystal any one heard of them?
Post by: Frank on November 13, 2008, 04:57:48 PM
...and factory/office in Kensington
and Holland Park, sounds very posh!

The area they were in is known as 'The Potteries' to the locals as that was where many used to be located and several of the old pottery buildings still exist. Often as architects offices or very pricey homes today.
Title: Re: MCG English Crystal any one heard of them?
Post by: chriscooper on August 17, 2015, 11:23:43 PM
Saw these today black brandy glasses
Title: Re: MCG - Metropolitan Crystal Glass Works Ltd
Post by: mercia man on March 04, 2018, 09:06:16 PM
Metropolitan Chrystal Glass was not located at Holland Park as some of the posts seem to think but were at Dalston Gardens off Honeypot Lane, Queensbury NW9. They were there until 2005 when they went in to administration.I know this because I lived nearby and used to buy their glass ware on a regular basis as presents for family.I also have a large collection myself along with receipts.They used to import the glassware and engrave it on site,I have occasionally see it used on TV programmes as props. There was a shop on their factory premises.
Title: Re: MCG English Crystal any one heard of them?
Post by: Anne on March 06, 2018, 02:08:50 AM
Hi mercia man, and welcome to the board. Thank you for updating this older topic for us - we do like new information that helps us understand more about these defunct glassmakers. 

There is a labelled MCG carafe or vase here on eBay (https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/1980-s-Metropolitan-Crystal-Glass-mcg-Water-or-Wine-Carafe/253433578629?hash=item3b01d18485:g:xRoAAOSwVLRaiGeQ) with a page from the catalogue shown with it. The catalogue has, helpfully, the pattern name of the item plus confirms the address as indicated by mercia man above, i.e. Metropolitan Crystal Glass Works Ltd., 14 Dalston Gardens, Honeypot Lane, Stanmore, Middlesex. HA7 1BW Tel: 01-204 0123
Title: Re: MCG English Crystal any one heard of them?
Post by: Lustrousstone on March 06, 2018, 07:27:08 AM
It is entirely possible that MCG moved from Holland Park to Stanmore. They were in business for 50 years...
Title: Re: MCG English Crystal any one heard of them?
Post by: Anne on March 06, 2018, 03:42:52 PM
Indeed it is Christine, Frank gives his references for that address as between 1959-1963 so they perhaps started out there and moved later to Stanmore.
Title: Re: MCG English Crystal any one heard of them?
Post by: LinzC on April 05, 2019, 05:00:18 PM
Just to add...

The '57 directory has them listed under manufacturers, not decorators, for "hand-cut glass tableware in traditional and contemporary styles".
The '58 directory also has them listed under manufacturers for "decanters; fruit sets; grapefruits; rose bowls; salad bowls; sundae glasses; trinket sets; tumblers; vases; water sets; wine suites."

With the factory address given in Pottery Lane for both.
Title: Re: MCG English Crystal any one heard of them?
Post by: Anne on April 06, 2019, 12:49:28 AM
CMOG Rakow Library catalogue gives an entry for them here (no image of it sadly)
https://www.cmog.org/library/jewel-cut-tablewear-metropolitan?search=library_collection%3Ab20b8b561caaaef2d9288f2e7ddb3364&page=18

Quote
Jewel cut tablewear [sic] by Metropolitan.
AUTHOR/ARTIST Metropolitan Crystal Glass Works Ltd.
PUBLISHED IN  Pottery Gazette and Glass Trade Review July 1967, pp. 699
CONTENTS  Advertisement features crystal glassware: eton, capri, ambassador, and the melrose.

Title: Re: MCG English Crystal any one heard of them?
Post by: LinzC on April 06, 2019, 05:52:01 AM
Pottery Gazette April 1966 Advert  ;D
Title: Re: MCG English Crystal any one heard of them?
Post by: LinzC on April 06, 2019, 05:53:16 AM
With slightly larger images of the four different designs; April, Capri, Harrow, Trinity.
Title: Re: MCG English Crystal any one heard of them?
Post by: Anne on April 06, 2019, 09:41:31 PM
That's super, thank you Lyndsey. :)
Title: Re: MCG English Crystal any one heard of them?
Post by: LinzC on April 07, 2019, 08:10:13 PM
Found another one from December 1956.

The three patterns, from left to right, are; St Pauls (facetted), Roulette, Astral.
 
Title: Re: MCG English Crystal any one heard of them?
Post by: Anne on April 07, 2019, 11:05:50 PM
These are really nice designs yet I've never seen them on sale on the secondary market. Perhaps because they weren't operational for very long, so not as many about as other makers?