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Glass Identification - Post here for all ID requests => Glass => Topic started by: jaque48 on February 21, 2008, 08:52:21 PM
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HI folks,I'm new to this forum. Seems I stumped the ebay PGP board and it was suggested that I come over here and ask you nice people. The bowl has a grape & vine decoration with a man's face in the middle. It measures just under 8" dia. and 1 3/4" h. Here's hoping someone can come to my rescue.
TIA
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Hi and welcome to the board, glad to see that you've taken the plunge. :hiclp:
I've amended your links as HTML doesn't work here on the board - to post a link you just need the URL and that's all, the board magically does the rest for you.
It's a lovely bowl but I can't help with who made it, hopefully someone will know though, fingers crossed for you. :)
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Very nice dish/bowl - I can't help much either except the three main makers of this type of glass was Jobling, Sabino or Lalique - Etling is another that produced opalescent glass.
What's your location, Jaque? That would help.
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Thank you, Anne:)
David, I'm pretty sure all Sabino and Lalique are signed. Not sure about the others. I did look into them though. It's not signed :cry:
I'm in a suburb of Cleveland, OH, and I bought it at a Thrift.
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Definitely French. I've seen quite a few of these in France. I've always believed they were made as a promotional item, the man's head may be a trademark or similar used by a company.
As to maker, definitely not Jobling or Lalique. It doesn't appear in P. Decelle's Sabino Maitre Verrier de L'Art Deco 1878-1961 Catalogue Raisonne so most likely not Sabino. Etling were a retailer, not a manufacturer. Most of their glass is believed to have been made by Choisy-le-Roi. I wouldn't rule out Choisy-le-Roi as the maker, though equally it could well be by another producer.
I would think the best course of action is to look into the man's head design and see if you could match it to a company. A lot of promotional pieces of this type seem to have been made for Vineyards or for restaurants, so that may be a starting point, particularly given the grapevine pattern on the bowl.
Steven
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I've been wondering if, rather than a bowl, it could be a part of a lampshade, perhaps made for a specific location such as a restaurant? Some of the lampshade glasses we've seen in these styles are drilled to take chains but others rest in a metal framework so no holes would be needed. The depth at 1½" seems to be very shallow for a bowl too - it wouldn't hold very much - whereas a lampshade could be much shallower.
I agree the man could be the clue - he reminds me a little of a leprechaun in that hat!
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Well, I agree about the man being a trademark. I'll try working on that for a bit.. Meantime, still hoping someone can come up with the maker.
Thanks,
Harriett
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Hi again Harriett, I've just spotted an Etling grape and vine pattern vase HERE (http://www.antiques-shop.co.uk/index.php?menu=49&almenu=&tipus=showcikkek&cikkid=384&part=show&sid=fa481f39ad3589fc1404ecea8d4263f6) which it's worth you comparing with your bowl for similarities. No wee man in the centre sadly, but the vase is marked Etling.
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Thanks Anne,
I did see that when I first started checking makers. With your second opinion I will look into it more.
Harriett
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The answer is here: http://www.glassmessages.com/index.php/topic,40940.0.html