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Title: Help with a signature please on a bird paperweight?
Post by: selina on February 23, 2008, 10:27:43 AM: Hi,

Ive been unable to figure out this signature on what I guess is a paperweight. Its flat by the way, not round. Pic doesnt really show that. Looks to be a robin? Gorgeous detail. Can anyone recognise the maker please?

Trudy
Title: Re: Help with a signature please on a bird paperweight?
Post by: Martyn K on February 23, 2008, 12:54:39 PM: Looks very much like a Mats Jonasson piece to me?
Title: Re: Help with a signature please on a bird paperweight?
Post by: Catisfaction on February 23, 2008, 07:29:33 PM: That's what I thought at first too but the siggy doesn't look right.
Title: Re: Help with a signature please on a bird paperweight?
Post by: johnphilip on February 23, 2008, 08:13:53 PM: Looks like RK I believe thats Swedish, something like Ronneby not sure though
Title: Re: Help with a signature please on a bird paperweight?
Post by: Ivo on February 23, 2008, 08:50:37 PM: that was my first thought because the sig looks very Marcolin - but I checked the 1999 FM Ronneby/ Marcolin catalogue and there is not a single cast item in there.
Title: Re: Help with a signature please on a bird paperweight?
Post by: selina on February 24, 2008, 02:05:50 AM: I thought it looked like RUGG 162 LIMY or CHMY something like that. I'm going cross-eyed from looking at it... lol
Title: Re: Help with a signature please on a bird paperweight?
Post by: Catisfaction on February 24, 2008, 03:25:25 AM: I was seeing Russ162 something or maybe Russell
Title: Re: Help with a signature please on a bird paperweight?
Post by: Martyn K on February 24, 2008, 08:29:42 AM: found this on another board.... http://www.worldcollectorsnet.com/matsjonasson/messages/131.html ....which seems to be the same makers mark, but cant see if they ever got an answer to thier question??

...Just to add that that would make the format of the mark two letters followed by 99162. then to my eyes CCMY or LCMJ
Title: Re: Help with a signature please on a bird paperweight?
Post by: Martyn K on February 24, 2008, 09:02:13 AM: Quote from: Martyn K on February 24, 2008, 08:29:42 AM

...Just to add that that would make the format of the mark two letters followed by 99162. then to my eyes CCMY or LCMJ

Which then reminded me of my Mats Jonasson moth paperweight for Kosta....

marked Kosta 99172 M.J
Title: Re: Help with a signature please on a bird paperweight?
Post by: antiquerose123 on February 24, 2008, 09:05:19 AM: To me it looks like ..........CEMY or CERY????
Title: Re: Help with a signature please on a bird paperweight?
Post by: inca on February 25, 2008, 12:46:29 AM: I too think that this looks very much like Mats Jonasson.

I think the signature reads: RK 99162 LCMJ

RK would be Royal Krona and MJ Mats Jonasson.

I guess this was made when Målerås was part of the Royal Krona group.

regards,

Ingela
Title: Re: Help with a signature please on a bird paperweight?
Post by: Frank on February 25, 2008, 09:16:21 AM: LC lead crystal ???
Title: Re: Help with a signature please on a bird paperweight?
Post by: selina on February 25, 2008, 10:29:45 AM: I might try powdering it and taking another pic....
Title: Re: Help with a signature please on a bird paperweight?
Post by: inca on February 25, 2008, 02:20:45 PM: Hi,

Please note that this has nothing to do with FM Konstglas/Marcolin, Ronneby.

Mats Jonasson/Målerås use this kind of numbering 99xxx for this type of
paperweights. Please see this link for reference:
http://www.someonespecial.com/cgi-bin/someone/jonassonbirds02.html
example: Wren, Paperweight Style #: 99203

So everything points towards Mats Jonasson and Royal Krona.

regards,

Ingela :)
Title: Re: Help with a signature please on a bird paperweight?
Post by: KevinH on February 25, 2008, 03:42:19 PM: I would agree that it is a Mats Jonasson piece. He is still, in my opinion, the best at producing accurate representaions of wild life in this form. I am 90% sure that the bird is a Golden Plover - which certainly spends its summer time all over the Scandavian landscape.

The shape of the piece does not seem to fit with his latest work and I cannot find this particular item in any web search, so perhaps it is an earlier one - and maybe Martyn is correct with Kosta.

Perhaps it would be simplest to contact him directly viw his website at
http://www.matsjonasson.com

When I raised a query with him several years ago, I received a quick and informative reply.
Title: Re: Help with a signature please on a bird paperweight?
Post by: selina on February 25, 2008, 08:37:55 PM: Thanks very much everyone for all your help. I really didnt have a clue but thought it was quality work, the detail is lovely on it. Kev I will send an email and update this thread if I hear back.
Title: Re: Help with a signature please on a bird paperweight?
Post by: inca on February 25, 2008, 09:05:20 PM: Hi,

If it is signed Kosta then it is Kosta..... If it is signed RK then it is Royal Krona. ;)

Målerås was part of the Royal Krona group 1975 - 1977.
The Royal Krona group: Skruf, Gullaskruf, Åseda, Björkshult and Målerås

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Royal Krona has been discussed earlier on GMB.
I remember that Ivo had a query some time back about "Royal Krona ladies".
http://www.glassmessages.com/index.php/topic,17360.msg100289.html#msg100289
" One of them is signed (RK########MJ) and has the Royal Krona sticker - so
I know it is Matts Jonasson from 1975-1977. "

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The Kosta period is after Royal Krona but before Mats Jonasson took over Målerås in 1981.

So I still think this paperweight is by Mats Jonasson/Målerås (as part of the
Royal Krona group) and that it dates back to the mid 1970's.

regards,
Ingela
Title: Re: Help with a signature please on a bird paperweight?
Post by: Martyn K on February 26, 2008, 09:04:22 AM: I thought Jonasson was at Kosta circa 1969-75 so before RK?
Title: Re: Help with a signature please on a bird paperweight?
Post by: inca on February 26, 2008, 08:56:29 PM: Quote from: Martyn K on February 26, 2008, 09:04:22 AM
I thought Jonasson was at Kosta circa 1969-75 so before RK?

That is correct but I was talking about the period after RK.

Do you know when Mats Jonasson started making this type of paperweights?
Were they made at Kosta before he returned to Målerås in 1975?
Title: Re: Help with a signature please on a bird paperweight?
Post by: selina on February 28, 2008, 10:25:42 PM: To update on this, I contacted the Mats Jonasson website and received an answer today.

This is one of the earliest Mats Jonasson products, introduced around 1980, no longer in their collection but Mats has confirmed that it is one of his products. Thanks for all your help everyone.

Trudy