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Glass Identification - Post here for all ID requests => Glass => Topic started by: Andy on February 25, 2008, 04:14:09 PM
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Same charity shop, for £2 ;D a lovely undamaged Hyacinth vase, green ribbed, fading towards base,
5 3/4". Hallmark anchor lion and f, i think thats Birmingham 1905, which would seem about right.
Makers mark on the hallmark WH? Could be WHL William Henry Lyde, (ive been googling)
anyone idea which company may have made the glass? and would it be Stourbridge?
Cheers,
Andy 8)
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Hi Andy, could we see a clearer photo of the mark please?
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The glass could have been made anywhere in the world and Bohemia is as likely as Stourbridge. Provided as blanks to a wholesaler or retailer and then fitted with the silver rim.
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So true Frank, but you know me, i love trying to identify silver too :)
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Thanks Frank,
Sue, ive just tried 25 or more shots, i dont think my cameras up to the job :'(
But , this one may be a bit better :D
Andy
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I think we need Patricia for the glass, maybe the H word will attract her attention
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Like a red flag Christine!
And believe it or not, I have exactly the same glass in the reverse, clear on top and green at the bottom.
The silvermarks on mine are very clear: WHS, Birmingham, and h for 1907 (I was told).
It's not the only bulbvase with a silver rim I've got and in most of the collegue-collections they show up as well, nearly always green, very occasionally cranberry.
All of them were bought in England, one way or another.
Up till now we haven't found it in any catalogue, bulb or glass.
So, going by what else we have as English vases, for us for the time being it's English, realising it's not the first time we've been very wrong.
Consolation probably is that you do not have a hyacinth vase but a tulip vase (the cup could never hold a hyacinth bulb, too big a bulb for this cup). And tulip vases are rare, as it is not an easy flower to grow on glass it was never popular.
Well done Andy!
Patricia
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Thanks Patricia :D
I thought it may be WHS, but was not sure about the S , and googling, the nearest was
WHL , maybe its W H Smiths ;D, or maybe as its a Tulip Vase, its Dutch???
1905 on an f, would correspond with 1907 on an h ,
It doesnt really fit in with my collection, so look out for it on ebay, on the other hand, i may pop a
Tulip bulb in it, and see what happens ;D
Cheers Andy
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Hey Andy,
Warn me when it comes on eBay!
Defenitely not Dutch, we never had such fancy vases. We had the bulbs, other countries had beautiful glasses for it.
If you want to put it to use....too late. September is the earliest you can have a go.( Now isn't that a reason for selling it!)
Patricia
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If it helps (probably not) the WHS mark might have been William Hutton & Sons (certainly right for the era), however its mark looks quite different:
http://www.925-1000.com/dlBirmingham2.html
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if that makes sense!
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Another suggestion = WH Sparrow:
WHS into a six sides polygon (W H Sparrow [ B ]) 20th c./1st half
Source: http://www.silvercollection.it/Englishsilvermarks3WTRE.html
Another couple of examples of the WHS mark here:
http://www.bryandouglas.co.uk/silverware/sugar_casters/3241/3241b.htm
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=330211617129
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Thanks Frank,
Sue, ive just tried 25 or more shots, i dont think my cameras up to the job :'(
But , this one may be a bit better :D
Andy
Andy, if you rely on direct flash for lighting you will always have problems. Try holding it in daylight (weather is grim ATM, though) and angling it slightly to get the best light/shadow for the crevices.
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Thanks Everyone for your help on this piece :clap:
Im sure its WHS as in the Sugar sifter picture from Anne,
http://www.bryandouglas.co.uk/silverware/sugar_casters/3241/3241b.htm
so probably WH Sparrow, 1905 and good practice for my photography, David, heres
some taken in this mornings sunshine ;D
Andy ;D
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I think Anne is right, William Henry Sparrow.
http://www.silvermakersmarks.co.uk/Makers/Birmingham-W.html
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Yes agreed. Thanks for finding that page Sue, most useful.
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Thanks Anne, Thanks Sue.
You both made not one but two people happy!
Patricia
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the hyacinth vase is lovely too! :mrgreen: