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Glass Identification - Post here for all ID requests => Glass => Topic started by: Sue C on February 25, 2008, 04:39:12 PM
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Does anyone recognize these? about 7ins tall pink outer white inner.
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I would guess late 19th early 20th century, either Bohemian or English. How lovely to find a pair and complete :o
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I would guess late 19th early 20th century, either Bohemian or English. How lovely to find a pair and complete :o
I know Christine, but that is what made me wonder? are these now being reproduced?
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I would doubt it, too much work and too small a market. It's difficult to gauge age from here, but there's no reason why that can't have been in Auntie Ethel's cupboard for 70-100 years. Is there the usual black grime in the tiny crevices that just won't come out?
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I am aware that there is someone currently making reproduction epergnes! LOTS of work there! So I wouldn't be surprised if s/he was also making this sort of thing. They are VERY nice, though! :D
And I do have some examples which are complete and not filthy, in spite of great age, so it is possible ;)
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Sue — As always with hand-made glass — please let us have a close look at their bases, both baskets and stands. ... and the various joins in the stands. ... and the handles.
Have you looked at the similar epergnes (using the term loosely) in Gulliver? Be wary of his Richardson references, they are not intended to be attributions. As none of the English glass houses appear to have registered such a design, so you have assume that they all might have made them — and they probably did!
What base wear is there?
Like Leni, I prefer my glass to have never been properly cleaned. You can't fake years of grime. Fortunately something like 99% of British women (and men) have not a clue how to wash up and clean things properly. They're taught by their mothers that it is a chore, so cannot possibly do it properly. You can always tell a glassie by looking in their kitchens. If you see a huge array of cloths and brushes, of every shape and size ever made, including some that haven't been invented yet, you've found a fellow glassie!
Bernard C. 8)
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Some more photo's
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I have to say they do look as though they might be repro to me! It's the base of the stand, the lack of any sort of dust or anything in the clear glass where it joins the foot, and the fact that the hanging baskets appear to be mould-blown rather than 'freehand'.
But if they are, what an amazing job! :o They are VERY pretty! :D
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I don't think being mould blown is an indication of newness...
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True, Christine, not necessarily ... But I still think these look new(er) :-\ What do you think?
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I don't know, but perhaps early 20th century Victorian, if you see what I mean. A revamp of an old idea but still maybe 70 years old :huh: :huh:, who knows
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Sue,
they are utterly gorgeous. I do think they are the real deal.
Most Victorian fancy glass does tend to have lots of ingrained dirt & grime, but maybe these ones are so clean because they have been stored in a secure display cabinet for years, or had a particularly tidy previous owner.
Bernard,
I understand about the glassie cleaning products! I have a great array of brushes of all sizes, cleaning cloths, you name it. ;D
They just look so authentic to me, the lovely colour is just right, the shape, everything.
Leni,
I've seen those repro epergnes about too. On Ebay fairly regularly in Australia, & also in several antiques shops here too! They are easy to spot, the colours are so wrong (horrible modern cobalt blues, bright greens, un-ruby-like reds, & worst of all, a hideous orange. The metal fittings are all new & shiny, too.
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The repro epergnes I've seen have been pretty, delicate colours, and the only way you can tell they are repros is, as you point out, the bright, new-looking metal parts! However, I did see someone advertising them with a clear styatement that they were repros! (Nice to see honest advertising on ebay! ;) )
How thrilling if Sue's really ARE the genuine article! In perfect condition, and spotlessly clean too! :D
Congrats, Sue :hiclp: