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Glass Identification - Post here for all ID requests => Glass => Topic started by: ElaineB on March 06, 2008, 10:23:30 AM
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Hiya,
Can anyone help me ID my piece of glass?
It glows under UV.Made in two pieces.No pontil or gadget mark.
John Walsh Walsh?
I'm a bit lost with this one.
Any help greatly appreciated,
Many thanks,
E
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I've seen that shape attributed to Stuart & Sons, too.
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Elaine — I had to smile when I looked at this, as I was mystified by where you took the photographs. It looks as if it is standing on a piece of coal in a coal cellar!
The single raised thread looks as if it could have been machine threaded, but is much more likely to have been mould blown. In which case you were right to suggest Walsh, the masters of mould-blown patterns amongst the greater Stourbridge glass houses. The difficulty I have is that a well-spaced single spiral is a new pattern to me.
Otherwise all the features I can see, including the wavy rim by former rather than thrown as you see on some Whitefriars pieces, and what I can see of the join, are consistent with a Walsh attribution. The lack of a pontil scar suggests to me a later date, probably early C20.
Finally it is always useful to glance at the three Richardson photographs in Lesley Jackson's Whitefriars Lookalikes (Glass Association Journal Vol. 5, 1997), to remind yourself that most of the Stourbridge glass houses were capable of making anything, and that attributing these pieces is not an exact science, as Leni has also suggested above.
Bernard C. 8)
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Elaine: Beautiful piece, but as Bernard said.....'Stourbridge region' is about the best you can hope for regarding attribution. I only wish I had one of these in my collection.
Bernard: looks like Elaine used black velvet to shoot her photo, which is something I frequently use. When Dave Ricardson (publisher/Antiques Publications) did the photos for my book, that is what he used for a black backdrop. He said that flash does not reflect off of it, so you don't get a glare. Of course, he was using those indirect aluminum light umbrellas when he took the pictures Using velvet without flash works the best for me.
Dave
aka: Mr. Vaseline Glass
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... but as Bernard said.....'Stourbridge region' is about the best you can hope for regarding attribution. ...
Dave — I don't think I said that. In fact my first reaction to Elaine's photographs was "What a lovely Walsh vase". My caution comes about as a result of my unsurpassed record on this and previous glass message boards for getting it wrong; a record which it is probably now impossible to surpass, so, incidentally, I need a blue plaque affixed to the wall by my front door.
It seems only fair to Elaine for others to express both healthy scepticism and informed confirmatory opinion.
Oh, and thanks for your generosity in giving me the opportunity to let off steam!
Bernard C. 8)
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Bernard: I read through your paragraphs quickly, and had not yet had a full cup of coffee (early here in the USA), and this was what stuck in my mind:
"remind yourself that most of the Stourbridge glass houses were capable of making anything, and that attributing these pieces is not an exact science"
I now realize that you were trying to be as specific as possible, but leaving the door open in case other proof should pop up.
And....nothing was taken personally. Good talking to you!
dave
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Hiya Everyone,
Many thanks for your help.
I guess I should add a wee bit more info as I was kind of run off my feet earlier when I first posted.
It's definitely made in two pieces;You can see the where the blob of glass on the lower end of the trumpet joins the foot.The space between the threading actually gets wider as it moves towards the base.
Taken on my M&S Black velvet jacket ;D
E
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Elaine: Beautiful piece, but as Bernard said.....'Stourbridge region' is about the best you can hope for regarding attribution. I only wish I had one of these in my collection.
Dave
aka: Mr. Vaseline Glass
Hiya Dave,
Ebay UK... Shady description...Dinky reserve...Yours if you want it :chky:
Elaine
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Thanks, Elaine....I put a couple of nibbler bids on it, but didnt hit the reserve yet (your GBP is worth twice my U$D, so your "dinky" reserve has not been hit yet.
Dave
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Hiya Dave,
Your nibblers are very much appreciated ;D
Thank you,E