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Glass Identification - Post here for all ID requests => Glass => Topic started by: David E on March 08, 2008, 11:05:39 AM
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Graham Cooley kindly provided these photos of two blue ashtrays, which do appear similar to the Goodden-designed ones for Chance. Like the Chance ones, there is a trademark 'Orlik' (not Orlak!) embossed on the base.
This appears to link to a Norwegian tobacco company:
http://www.orlik.com
(the Chance one is commonly marked 'Parker' for the Parker Beacon tobacco company)
Unlike the Chance type, this one features vertical ribbing on the outside. However, variations have been noted to the outside before. One further feature on the Chance one is the two grooves in the lip (see photo).
Only thing I don't have at present is the sizes, so perhaps Graham will provide these: Chance one is 5¾ x 4 x 2 high - or more precisely in cms: 14.7 x 10.3 x 4.8
Photos:
Blue ashtrays © Graham Cooley
Green Chance ashtray: © David Encill
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This appears to link to a Norwegian tobacco company:
http://www.orlik.com
Except, Orlik Tobacco Company A/S was founded in 1990.
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And doesn't appear to be Norwegian but Danish.
We lost our danish overlords years and years ago :)
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8)
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Not so, Frank: tricky to find, but buried in this page 2/3rd down) it mentions:
http://pipelore.net/index.php?id=123
Orlik Tobacco Company of Denmark, though founded in 1990, has a much longer history of making world class pipe tobacco, and is today one of the largest makers of pipe tobacco in the world.
Also:
http://pipaclub.blogspot.com/2007_09_01_archive.html
The pipes of Cadogan were manufactured in many places disseminated around London and in Saint-Claude, but with the purchase of Orlik Pipe Co In 1980...
... indicating Orlik was in production before 1980.
The tradename is also associated with pipes, and these definitely have a longer history than 1990. It would appear these are English-made, so I may have made the wrong conclusion.
Example:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=160207774242
The only other links is Emil Orlik a Czech artist, or a town in the Czech Republic, but I did find some French-made handpainted glass, where the placename is also Orlik:
http://www.tias.com/8033/PictPage/1922717441.html
But I will concede it wasn't Norwegian! ;)
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Seems Orlik (English pipe company) was founded in 1899:
http://www.uktobacco.co.uk/pipes.htm
Orlik From 1899, Orlik pipes and smokers’ sundry items became synonymous with quality and service. This tradition continues today but with a limited product range.
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More on Orlik pipemakers: http://chriskeene.com/index.html
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Thanks Anne, the logo featured here has similarities to the ashtray :)
http://pipepages.com/orlshape1.htm
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Hi David,
The dimensions are in cms: 14.7 x 10.3 x 4.8; so bang on target. The cigarrette holder grooves are the same on top but are hollow underneath. I've got a Chance Goodden one somewhere; I'll dig it out and shoot them together.
Whats your view on the two blue colours; I recognise the light blue as Chance Gooden but what about the dark blue?
Sorry the photos are so awful!
Graham
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David
The upstanding flutes (not grooves) along the cigarette holder are 1/4" (outside to outside) and 3/4" long ending with a tiny upstanding gully. This looks like a signature feature to me.
Graham
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The hollow underside to the 'wings' is a little odd, but I haven't seen enough of them to form a judgement. Perhaps these were a later production when they redesigned the outside as well?
The two flutes (yes, not gooves) are 7/8 (22mm) long on mine, not sure what you mean about the gully, but the distance from the flutes to the edge of the lip is 5mm.
The difference in colours I can't answer straight away but they could vary. The darker hue might just be a different mix – and there are several colour variations of this ashtray. I'll see if Ray Drury knows anything about the pre-war pressed glass (there ain't many other people left!) and how many different pots were in use.
Sizewise it conforms perfectly, so I'm pretty sure we are on the right track :)
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The grooves are about 1/8" wide on mine BTW (3mm)
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Attached is a close-up of the flutes on my ashtray.
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The raised parts would allow the pipe barrel to keep cooler, perhaps?
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David
That last shot and the dimensions confirms it for me. The flutes don't run off the edge but go into a ridge the same hieght. The Orlik ones are identical.
Graham