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Title: Unusual vintage lid to look like a paperweight
Post by: saorsa on March 10, 2008, 02:28:54 PM
Large unusual glass lid / stopper i think .

3.25 inches in diameter , backed by a lead/tin

the design appears to be of very high quality in aventurine , with various figures and animals
 
Any ideas to maker / date / use etc

Thanks

sorry i cant use yourbunny to host these pictures meantime as i forgot my password and have been locked out .


Title: Re: Unusual vintage lid to look like a paperweight
Post by: RAY on March 10, 2008, 03:36:05 PM
looks like an old pinchbeck weight
Title: Re: Unusual vintage lid to look like a paperweight
Post by: saorsa on March 10, 2008, 04:47:45 PM
Many thanks  Ray , that was very much appreciated , i will list it on ebay this evening ( my Band needs more lights )

 Regards Gregor
Title: Re: Unusual vintage lid to look like a paperweight
Post by: RAY on March 10, 2008, 08:35:46 PM
it was made using copper and i think zinc to imitate gold, mainly used on jewelry in the Victorian days
Title: Re: Unusual vintage lid to look like a paperweight
Post by: johnphilip on March 11, 2008, 05:52:53 PM
Yes pinchbeck, i have one depicting a boarhunt,i showed mine to Simon Cottle about ten years ago it also has a metal backing plate covered in a fine muslin cloth but it had a cogwheel cut edge he suggested it may have been the top of a decanter stopper, but no peg.At that time he valued it at £300. apparently the Germans love them.I didnt want to sell it i still have it.
Title: Re: Unusual vintage lid to look like a paperweight
Post by: Frank on March 11, 2008, 06:59:45 PM
Might get more info if moved to glass forum.
Title: Re: Unusual vintage lid to look like a paperweight
Post by: saorsa on March 11, 2008, 10:00:42 PM
Many Thanks  Everyone, Most Helpfull

Gregor
Title: Re: Unusual vintage lid to look like a paperweight
Post by: Anne on March 12, 2008, 03:11:27 AM
sorry i cant use yourbunny to host these pictures meantime as i forgot my password and have been locked out .

Gregor, the ban is only temporary and expires in about 10 minutes. If you can't recall your password, then use the forgotten password link here: http://glassgallery.yobunny.org.uk/forgot_passwd.php - email me if you need help with doing it.

Meanwhile, pics on the board are fine, we can use either GG or the attachments option now for queries (I quite like it being called yourbunny though. :))
Title: Re: Unusual vintage lid to look like a paperweight
Post by: saorsa on March 12, 2008, 06:43:44 PM
Ha. Ha i will get round to it and log in again .

As For typos it could have been a lot worse  !! Anne you'll always be my   :anb: from now on  x  x
Title: Re: Unusual vintage lid to look like a paperweight
Post by: Cathy B on March 14, 2008, 08:52:28 AM
Gregor, is the figure to the right in your second picture playing bagpipes?

You probably saw this anyway, but here's a great article by Marshall Deitsch (http://www.paperweight.org/05_convention/MarshallDeitsch.pdf) on pinchbeck weights.
Title: Re: Unusual vintage lid to look like a paperweight
Post by: saorsa on March 14, 2008, 09:01:03 PM
Hi Cathy

It does look like a wind instrument of some sort, i did think of Bagpipes but i think it must be some kind of a derivative.

thank you very much for the link , i will go and look at it now

Greg
Title: Re: Unusual vintage lid to look like a paperweight
Post by: Frank on March 15, 2008, 02:15:23 PM
Thee are lots of varieties of Bagpipes but most people think of the modern Scottish type which are most familiar to many. Could be Roman Empire, French, Irish, Italy, Scottish, Eastern Europe as well as other lands.
Title: Re: Unusual vintage lid to look like a paperweight
Post by: Cathy B on March 16, 2008, 08:17:46 AM
From memory, there's some Eastern European one that's basically a hollowed out goat. They used the leg head and tail holes for the various pipes. It was really quite gruesome. But that's off topic  ;D

Looking again, this particular instrument seems to be lacking the mouthpiece and blowpipe, so that might narrow it down a bit. If we were really desperate to find out, someone with expertise in old instruments might be able to pick it - as long as the depiction was accurate.
Title: Re: Unusual vintage lid to look like a paperweight
Post by: Leni on March 16, 2008, 10:28:39 AM
From memory, there's some Eastern European one that's basically a hollowed out goat. They used the leg head and tail holes for the various pipes. It was really quite gruesome. But that's off topic  ;D
And then there's the version that uses a live cat.  They tuck the cat under their arm, pull on the back legs, and bite the tail!  ;)   

Sounds just like the 'real' pipes >:D  Or so I'm told  :D

IGMC  :angel:
Title: Re: Unusual vintage lid to look like a paperweight
Post by: Sue C on March 16, 2008, 10:43:46 AM
I would think Irish, saw them being played when i lived in Ireland 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uilleann_pipes
Title: Re: Unusual vintage lid to look like a paperweight
Post by: Anne on March 16, 2008, 12:23:40 PM
There are Northumbrian pipes as well.
Title: Re: Unusual vintage lid to look like a paperweight
Post by: Cathy B on March 17, 2008, 04:58:37 AM
And then there's the version that uses a live cat.  They tuck the cat under their arm, pull on the back legs, and bite the tail!  ;)   

Sounds just like the 'real' pipes >:D  Or so I'm told  :D

What's the definition of a gentleman?
Someone who can play the bagpipes


but doesn't.

 ;D