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Title: cased opalescent and orange ribbed enameled vase
Post by: krsilber on March 15, 2008, 12:20:58 AM

I feel a bit guilty asking for ID help, when I'm of no use on 99% of the glass others here are asking for help with.  It's a different world over there!  Post some Heisey or Sinclaire, and I'll be of some help!

This vase is opalescent on the inside, with a layer of peachy orange over that, topped by colorless glass.  The ribs are thin and quite well defined near the top.  Rim is ground and had gold on it at one point.  Bottom has no pontil scar and is not ground.  Decorated on one side with yellow and white enamel.

Most Americans I know would probably say this is Bohemian, but for some reason I suspect English.  I would much appreciate any clues to its origin!

(http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l288/krsilber/th_unkcasedopalvase.jpg) (http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l288/krsilber/unkcasedopalvase.jpg)
(http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l288/krsilber/th_unkcasedopalvasetop.jpg) (http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l288/krsilber/unkcasedopalvasetop.jpg)
(http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l288/krsilber/th_unkcasedopalvasebottom.jpg) (http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l288/krsilber/unkcasedopalvasebottom.jpg)

Title: Re: cased opalescent and orange ribbed enameled vase
Post by: Bernard C on March 15, 2008, 01:56:17 AM

Kristi — Interesting colour graduation.   Compare with a pair of thorn vases I had through my hands a while ago — the second link takes you straight there, but I've included the others for completeness.

Thorn Vases — Help Sought (http://www.glassmessages.com/index.php/topic,2433.0.html)

Thorn Vases — Help Sought (part 2) (http://www.glassmessages.com/index.php/topic,2516.0.html)

Thorn Vases — part 3 — dating and Webb's Alexandrite (http://www.glassmessages.com/index.php/topic,2593.0.html)

Bernard C.  8)

Title: Re: cased opalescent and orange ribbed enameled vase
Post by: Andy on March 15, 2008, 09:39:19 PM

Hi Kristi,
many of us are pretty useless in 99% of id requests, but you have already been very helpful to me
on more than one occasion, so dont feel guilty , and its sometimes just little hints and
suggestions that can lead to a positive ID. One day i may post a piece of Heisey or Sinclaire,
(which i have never heard of :huh:) and you will be able to id it straight away!

Regards
Andy ;)

Title: Re: cased opalescent and orange ribbed enameled vase
Post by: krsilber on March 15, 2008, 11:19:11 PM

Thanks, Andy, for that great comment!  I'm glad I've been of some help to someone!  Never heard of Sinclaire?  Oh my... Sinclaire's my favorite American glass company.  Fabulous engraving! I'll post a few photos of Sinclaire pieces when I manage to register for the Glass Gallery, but here's a link to one:  http://www.cmog.org/collection/detail.php?t=objects&type=all&f=&s=sinclaire+engraved&record=0. 

Bernard - wow, there's so much to read and assimilate in those threads!  I got a kick out of this comment of yours:  "I take "S&W" and "Webb" attributions from all but serious heavyweights in the USA with a bucketful of salt."  Well said!  Same thing with Moser attributions.

Speaking of Moser, their shaded wares are a product of a thin layer of colored glass sandwiched between colorless ones.  In that case, though, the colored glass is only on part of the piece, which is why some of them have one color at the top and another at the bottom.  I agree with some comment you made somewhere that in our vases the color is stretched out, so where the glass is thinner, it's lighter.

Interesting discussions about struck colors, too.  I agree with this:  "Plated amberina to me would be amberina glass over a white body."  (Connie).  And it's true, "amberina" in the US has been used by some glassmakers to describe a color combination rather than a struck glass.  "Peachblow" is the same way.

Sigh.  I was looking back through several old threads the other day and thinking there were comments I could have made, but it's hard to know whether the topics haven't already been raised and beaten to death in subsequent threads.

Title: Re: cased opalescent and orange ribbed enameled vase
Post by: Cathy B on March 16, 2008, 07:25:57 AM

Hi Kristi,

If you have a comment about any older thread, please feel free to add it.  :) The objective here is that the old threads become a sort of searchable database, and if you can add to the discussion in any way (to correct inaccuracies or fill gaps), we'd love to have the benefit of your knowledge. It's great to have you here! I must dig out some of my engraved glass to share :)

Title: Re: cased opalescent and orange ribbed enameled vase
Post by: krsilber on March 16, 2008, 07:56:24 PM

Thanks, Cathy!  And by all, means, dig out that engraved glass!

I think "glassies" are such a friendly crowd, and so generous with their time and knowledge.  It's really great to meet so many people with a different perspective - one from 1000s of miles/km away!