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Glass Identification - Post here for all ID requests => Glass => Topic started by: bubbles on July 30, 2005, 08:29:08 AM
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Hi everyone,
I would like to add these two vases to my website but I am not too sure how to describe them. The first one I believe would be latticino and would like confirmation (or otherwise) of this. The second however I have no idea. It has chunks of black amethyst and white embedded in clear glass. I'm sure it has a name but can't find anything about it. The third picture is the whole vase. Thanking you all in advance, I'm really hooked on this site a brilliant way to learn! Well done.
Mod: images now attached to reply #18 below. (Thanks Pat.)
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There are a few sites that explain glass-making techniques.
One site is run by a member of this board (Alex, artinglass)
http://www.artofvenice.com/art/glossary.html
But one of the best is The Losch's
http://www.the-loschs.com/technik.html
which contains numerous photos to illustrate them. Hope you've got Broadband though as it does take a while to load the page otherwise!
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:D :o
My thanks to everyone who replied. The sites have excellent information. My poor eyes are out on stalks after sitting at the computer most of yesterday looking! I have to admit though, I'm still not sure I have identified my vases correctly. It seems they have raised more questions than answers! I have a lot more digging to do. I hadn't known about the difference between murrine and millefiori. Am I right in thinking that a paperweight with canes arranged in concentric circles would be millefiori, whereas canes cut through into slices and applied on the surface would be murrine? Also after looking on the web I noticed that there is latticino and latticinio, is that just a variation of spelling or something different? I don't expect you to answer all my questions (unless you want to) but it has made me realise I've still a lot of work to do!!
Thanks again
Pat
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does not really show up well on the photograph - but I think the first one is a Merletto, with a pattern created by netting.
Ivo
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Murrine is pictures created within a cane.
Millefiori means a thousand flowers and is slices of cane.
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Frank
Thankyou for clarifying the murrine, milleifiori confusion for me, my brain cell is rather overloaded trying to take it all in. Let alone remember it!
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Thanks Ivo,
Here is a better picture of the base. Hope this helps.
http://tinypic.com/9r0t4h.jpg
yep, tha's Merletto - a netting of asbestos. An Italian invention, but most examples are HARRTIL glass, designed by Milan Metelák at Harrach'ov glassworks in the late fifties.
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Thought you might like to know that I have found a similar vase to the black and white one at the start of this thread. Although larger, and in green and white, the technique,shape and base finish is the same. This one also has the remains of a label. It states it was made in Czechoslovakia.
Both vases and label:
http://glassgallery.yobunny.org.uk/displayimage.php?pos=-1488
http://glassgallery.yobunny.org.uk/displayimage.php?pos=-1487
Do you all agree with Sue that this technique is arlecino? I would hate to put something incorrect on the site.
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One interesting aspect of these bud vases is that many came fom Harrach'ov, controlled bubble, Harrtil and marbled/arlecino, and most arrived in the UK via one single importer, Jaffe Rose, whose close ties to Harrach'ov are not yet clearly understood. Certainly having looked at Pat's site, there are forms that can clearly be traced as Metelak designs, often as the bases match particular sets of drinking glasses designed by him during the '50s, 60s and 70s.
regards,
Marcus
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Oooh Marcus,
Please tell me more! Do you have any examples of the glasses in question?
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Pat,
I have mailed yousome of the images in question.
regards,
Marcus
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Thank you very much Marcus, for your advice and email.
I have received them.
I also did a search on line and found this site:
http://www.sklarnaharrachov.cz/katalogsklodetailuk.php?id=48
There is one that ties up very well with one of mine. I also found a controlled bubble candle holder which is very very similar to one I have, sadly there are only line drawings to compare it with. I am becoming quite familiar with the various types and am getting a feel for the makers. I do however prefer to have proof before putting them on the site.
I really do appreciate everyone's thoughts and input.
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Here are the missing pictures from the beginning of this thread. I have included an extra one of the base.