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Title: $20 million REPAIR job on Stained Glass windows............
Post by: Patrick on April 16, 2008, 11:27:09 AM
Hi, My Sister Brigid sent me this link to the New York Times article about the repair of the stained glass windows of St Thomas NY. Most of the Powell/Whitefriars windows were designed by my Grandfather James Hogan. http://www.nytimes.com/2008/04/15/arts/design/15stai.html?ex=1209009600&en=5bd4f27780b4a274&ei=5070&emc=eta1
If you look at the 'slide show' you will see a panel where there is a self portrait of him standing at work. Here is the link to the image .......... http://www.nytimes.com/slideshow/2008/04/11/arts/20080411_GLASS_SLIDESHOW_20.html
Regards Patrick.
Title: Re: $20 million REPAIR job on Stained Glass windows............
Post by: Frank on April 16, 2008, 12:11:19 PM
Gorgeous windows pity they could not have replaced a couple with modern work though and put the replaced ones in a museum.

But the cost  :o Put into different terms it is the equivalent of feeding 4 million people in Africa for a week. Or "A WHO cost-benefit analysis calculated that every $1 invested in water yields an economic return of between $10-12 and the total investment required to provide a clean, safe and reliable public water point in Africa costs between $20-$50 per capita, depending on local climate, topography, and the technology employed (WHO). (http://www.data.org/issues/development_2006_waterBriefing.html)"
Title: Re: $20 million REPAIR job on Stained Glass windows............
Post by: Dave the Glass on April 17, 2008, 09:17:53 AM
I don't think a couple of UPVC windows would be quite the same somehow, & although I am not a religious person I have been to some wonderful churches whose iconography,  must be worth a fortune, but i don't think they should go to museums. Although that ceiling in Rome, must be worth a few quid ;D
Title: Re: $20 million REPAIR job on Stained Glass windows............
Post by: Bernard C on April 17, 2008, 09:41:56 AM
Quote from: Patrick
... If you look at the 'slide show' you will see a panel where there is a self portrait of him standing at work. ...

Patrick — I can't see him.  Where should I be looking?

Nice to see they are doing a proper job on those lovely windows.   Thanks for the link.

Bernard C.  8)
Title: Re: $20 million REPAIR job on Stained Glass windows............
Post by: Pinkspoons on April 17, 2008, 09:55:43 AM
I'm with Dave on this. If items of historical or design importance can stay in their original context, then there's no reason to move them - especially if that original context is in a public venue for all to enjoy anyway.

The windows look amazing and I really wish I'd been interested in glass when I visited NY in my teens, I would have pushed to hunt them out.
Title: Re: $20 million REPAIR job on Stained Glass windows............
Post by: Dave the Glass on April 17, 2008, 10:28:23 AM
Go back! Ive been 3 times now, its a wonderful city, so much to see, & no i didn't see this church when i was there
Dave
Title: Re: $20 million REPAIR job on Stained Glass windows............
Post by: johnphilip on April 17, 2008, 10:31:31 AM
Naah Nic you would have probably thrown stones at them and then pushed them out,B  teenagers.
Title: Re: $20 million REPAIR job on Stained Glass windows............
Post by: Pinkspoons on April 17, 2008, 12:53:39 PM
 :o

I was a very conscientious teen with a great respect for the past - especially the material past, with antiques, architecture and such. Although, for all that, I do seem to be stuck firmly in the mid/late 20th century these days.  ;D
Title: Re: $20 million REPAIR job on Stained Glass windows............
Post by: Patrick on April 17, 2008, 05:02:40 PM
Hi Bernard,
Here is the pic http://www.nytimes.com/slideshow/2008/04/11/arts/20080411_GLASS_SLIDESHOW_20.html
 Regards Patrick.
Ps, Here is his name in the tracery of the large window that faces Fifth Avenue.
Title: Re: $20 million REPAIR job on Stained Glass windows............
Post by: Bernard C on April 17, 2008, 05:16:09 PM
Patrick — Thanks.   I had been looking for just one light with him on, like the hooded friar TM, not realising that you meant the whole image!

What a marvellous life he must have led.   Working and playing hard.   ... and being paid to travel around the world on the great ocean liners!   

Bernard C.  8)
Title: Re: $20 million REPAIR job on Stained Glass windows............
Post by: Patrick on May 03, 2008, 08:22:59 PM
Hi, I have just had this image sent to me by Julie L. Sloan, LLC Consultants in Stained Glass . It is a better image of my Grandfather featured on a soon to be restored window and shows him holding a panel of stained glass .
 She is happy for her image to be shown here and if you look in the tracery you can see the initials J H .
Regards Patrick.
Title: Re: $20 million REPAIR job on Stained Glass windows............
Post by: Frank on May 03, 2008, 09:23:58 PM
Intriguing! Is there another story to these windows?
Title: Re: $20 million REPAIR job on Stained Glass windows............
Post by: Anne on May 03, 2008, 10:17:39 PM
Patrick that is a superb window. Do you have a full list of all of the stained glass produced by your grandfather yet?
Title: Re: $20 million REPAIR job on Stained Glass windows............
Post by: krsilber on May 04, 2008, 12:39:22 AM
Patrick, that is so cool!  You must be so proud.  Did you know your grandfather well?  Did you know about this window? 

That's a fascinating article.  It's going to take them as long to restore the windows as it did to build the church.  What a project!
Title: Re: $20 million REPAIR job on Stained Glass windows............
Post by: Patrick on May 04, 2008, 08:02:07 PM
Hi Anne and Kristi,
 I am going to contact Dennis Hadley who I think has a complete list of all his windows. When I have the list i will upload it somewhere with all details. It was after reading one of Dennis Hadley's articles that I discovered the Virtues and Vices windows. He is a mine of information but at the moment he is caring full time for his wife who is very ill.
Until Julie Sloane contacted me I had no idea about the self portrait and as you can imagine It was very exciting to see it. My Grandfather was a worker hollic and the only time I remember seeing him was when he was home working in his study . I remember watching him put the black lines onto a drawing showing the lead . He used to work very quickly , a bit like Rolf Harris ! He died when i was eight years old.
Regards Patrick.