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Title: Whitefriars dates / catalogues
Post by: tropdevin on April 29, 2008, 04:15:44 PM
The seller of this Whitefriars item (http://rover.ebay.com/rover/1/710-53481-19255-0/1?type=2&campid=5335820906&toolid=10001&customid=&ext=200218617329&item=200218617329) specifies a pattern number and a date (1949). (I know it is a paperweight, but I have asked here as my query is more general).  Is there a source which would show images or describe items from the 1949 period of production (eg a catalogue or online reference)?  And if so, what about the years either side?

Alan 
Title: Re: Whitefriars dates / catalogues
Post by: Leni on April 29, 2008, 04:45:10 PM
I showed a picture of an identical (as far as I am aware) paperweight to an ex WF glassblower, and he confirmed to me that it was WF but the date he gave for it was the 1970's.  He also said that they "were not made for very long".

However, I have to say that it certainly does look like paperweight number 9312 shown here in the 1949 catalogue http://www.whitefriars.com/catalogues/contents.php?id=10399

Perhaps he was referring to the colour?   :huh: 

WF catalogues can be found online at http://www.whitefriars.com/catalogues/index.php  and at http://www.whitefriarsorg.org/GMIE-sm/whitefriars_catalogues.htm
Title: Re: Whitefriars dates / catalogues
Post by: butchiedog on April 29, 2008, 04:54:41 PM
Hello,

This site may help or just be interesting to you.

http://www.whitefriars.com/

They feature Witefriars glass from a number of different eras and offer help too. --- Mike

Title: Re: Whitefriars dates / catalogues
Post by: Pinkspoons on April 29, 2008, 05:05:33 PM
Pops up in the catalogues on Whitefriarsorg 1950 through to 1960.
Title: Re: Whitefriars dates / catalogues
Post by: tropdevin on April 29, 2008, 05:12:15 PM
Many thanks for all the helpful links.  It does seem these were made in 1949!

Alan
Title: Re: Whitefriars dates / catalogues
Post by: Bernard C on April 29, 2008, 05:25:06 PM
Alan — See http://www.whitefriars.com/catalogues/index.php for an excellent and comprehensive range of searchable WF catalogues.

Doesn't it make a huge difference acknowledging sources?   That eBay seller has now gone on to my personal grey list (check very carefully before buying anything from them), whereas a few words of acknowledgement would have put them onto my EPNS list (looks good but do the basic checks).

Bernard C.  8)
Title: Re: Whitefriars dates / catalogues
Post by: josordoni on April 29, 2008, 07:13:42 PM
Alan — See http://www.whitefriars.com/catalogues/index.php for an excellent and comprehensive range of searchable WF catalogues.

Doesn't it make a huge difference acknowledging sources?   That eBay seller has now gone on to my personal grey list (check very carefully before buying anything from them), whereas a few words of acknowledgement would have put them onto my EPNS list (looks good but do the basic checks).

Bernard C.  8)
Hi Bernard, do you know for certain that Whitefriarsorg or whitefriars.com are that seller's sources?  They sell - and have previously sold - quite a lot of modern glass, perhaps they have their own research library, or perhaps even the catalogues?

Title: Re: Whitefriars dates / catalogues
Post by: Lustrousstone on April 29, 2008, 07:33:45 PM
That seller asked on here and was answered definitively. Also on WF.com without a very conclusive answer. That's what Bernard means. Presumably the date came from the catalogue
Title: Re: Whitefriars dates / catalogues
Post by: josordoni on April 29, 2008, 07:44:55 PM
thanks Christine, I didn't see that posting... in that case I do certainly agree with Bernard  >:(.
Title: Re: Whitefriars dates / catalogues
Post by: johnphilip on April 29, 2008, 09:44:33 PM
  I am sure it is Whitefriars  same range as the ones made for the Festival of Britain so that should give
  an approximate date,the festival ones were red white and blue.JP
Title: Re: Whitefriars dates / catalogues
Post by: johnphilip on April 30, 2008, 07:19:55 AM
   Last year i identified a paperweight on this forum with all the relevent details,maker designer pattern number
   year and that it was bog standard production,it turned up a couple of days later on ebay almost verbatim except for the addition very rare it sold for about three times the norm ,oh yes the bog standard was left out, i believe it went to USA. Not Pleased.