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Title: Mystery vase black/ameythst glass Etched cherubs and griffons
Post by: azelismia on May 06, 2008, 02:23:01 AM

I got this vase recently and am now trying to identify it. I have been all over my books and the web adn can't find anything quite like it. does anyone here have an opinion this vase :) The base is quite heavy. it is solid glass.


http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg172/thefiresidecat/cherubgls.jpg
http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg172/thefiresidecat/cherubgls1.jpg
http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg172/thefiresidecat/cherub3.jpg
http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg172/thefiresidecat/Picture038.jpg
http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg172/thefiresidecat/Picture043.jpg
http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg172/thefiresidecat/P1010135.jpg
http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg172/thefiresidecat/P1010130.jpg


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Title: Re: Mystery vase black/ameythst glass Etched cherubs and griffons
Post by: krsilber on May 07, 2008, 12:32:03 AM

Very interesting!  It's new to me, too.

Title: Re: Mystery vase black/ameythst glass Etched cherubs and griffons
Post by: Tigerchips on May 07, 2008, 06:37:57 AM

Boom perhaps?
http://www.hogelandshoeve.nl/main43.html
http://www.hogelandshoeve.nl/56pix/index.htm

Title: Re: Mystery vase black/ameythst glass Etched cherubs and griffons
Post by: azelismia on May 08, 2008, 04:44:03 AM

there are some similarities. it's definitely a direction to look in. Thanks :)

Title: Re: Mystery vase black/ameythst glass Etched cherubs and griffons
Post by: Mike M on May 08, 2008, 02:29:07 PM

It looks to me to be a Moser oroplastique 'look-a-like'

many many companies copied Moser when they came out with their oroplastique glass

If I had to guess I'd say Goldberg 


cheers

Mike

Title: Re: Mystery vase black/ameythst glass Etched cherubs and griffons
Post by: krsilber on May 08, 2008, 07:26:40 PM

There does seem to be some similarity with the Boom work, but the style on this seems pretty distinctive.  To me it looks more nationalistic or like a coat of arms or something than cupid-like.  Is the face on the wings really frowning, or is that a trick of the light?

To me it doesn't look like a Moser-type oroplastique decoration.  The relief areas within the design aren't gilt, and it appears to drawn by hand rather than with a stencil.

I saw something Hungarian yesterday that reminded me a lot of this piece.  Not that this is Hungarian, but to me it looks like it has some eastern or Islamic influence.  Russian maybe?

Title: Re: Mystery vase black/ameythst glass Etched cherubs and griffons
Post by: azelismia on May 08, 2008, 10:08:21 PM

yup, the critter really is frowning and it definitely looks hand done. not by stencil. to me it looks like 18th or 19th century grave stone motif. for some reason I keep thinking it looks french. that's just a total gut feeling though. not based on anything really.

http://members.aol.com/TombView/rubbings.html

http://www.pagstones.com/pgs_bloom_hrt_vase_sym.page.html

it looks like the symbol I am thinking of is related to the pennsylvanian germans. So perhaps this vase is germanic..

Title: Re: Mystery vase black/ameythst glass Etched cherubs and griffons
Post by: azelismia on May 09, 2008, 07:22:50 AM

OOps, I thought the second link was going to a general definition of symbols page

here is the definition with examples of cherubs.

http://www.pagstones.com/pgs_hillchurch_1.page.html#cherub2

the ones on teh bottom are similar stylistically.