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Title: insect enamelled toothpick holder
Post by: lyndhurst44 on May 24, 2008, 06:21:51 PM

Hi,
I purchased this tiny 3" tall enamelled toothpick holder during my travels today. As you can see the holder is decorated with insects. I recently listed an ewer which also had an insect theme which was eventually thought to be by either Moser or Harrach. However I don't think that this item is of the same quality, but could be wrong of course.
Has anyone seen a similar piece please?
Thanks,
Bryn

Title: Re: insect enamelled toothpick holder
Post by: Mike M on May 25, 2008, 09:04:52 AM

Hi

I'm not very good at digging up old threads -but I enquired about a very similar piece (mine was a bowl) about a year ago. I remember glasshound had a similar piece on his website. Alas we never came up with a definite attribution, although a few people, including myself, thought probably Fritz Heckert. The Glass quality just wasn't good enough for Moser.

cheers
Mike

Title: Re: insect enamelled toothpick holder
Post by: Mike M on May 25, 2008, 09:10:01 AM

Thread was November 06

try this

http://www.glassmessages.com/index.php/topic,8095.0.html (http://www.glassmessages.com/index.php/topic,8095.0.html)

cheers

Mike

Title: Re: insect enamelled toothpick holder
Post by: lyndhurst44 on May 25, 2008, 03:09:38 PM

Thanks Mike,
Yes, that's the one, exactly the same subject matter. Interesting to see that you feel it is that old.
I also purchased this heron enamelled wine glass from the same dealer, i wonder if you feel it could have come from the same maker and period?

Cheers,
Bryn

Title: Re: insect enamelled toothpick holder
Post by: Mike M on May 25, 2008, 05:30:30 PM

Hi

The main reasons I think they are old are:

1. I've seen maybe 4 pieces now and they've all had very healthy wear on their bases (a good 80-100 years)
2. The high quality enamelling with lesser quality glass is typical of that period
3. Bugs were very popular imagery 1895-1925

but you never know...... this is what makes all this such fun

Your heron glass is really interesting  too - absolutely no idea - I can see similarity in taste with the bug piece, but that doesn't neecessarily mean same origin 

cheers

Mike

Title: Re: insect enamelled toothpick holder
Post by: lyndhurst44 on May 25, 2008, 06:13:06 PM

Thanks again Mike,
I have just been been scouting through the Great Glass website Photo Library and found 2 similar heron pieces listed under Austro-Bohemian & German (unidentified) glass, one being suggested as being Fritz Hechert and dated 1890's, the other suggested as being Bohemian from around the same date. I would edge more towards the 19thC Bohemian piece as the enamelling on the Hechert piece looks far superior to mine. 
I just love this hobby of ours ;D

Cheers,
Bryn

Title: Re: insect enamelled toothpick holder
Post by: Galle on May 26, 2008, 05:09:43 AM

I feel like this piece is going to be of the unidentified variety - I don't see the refinement of Heckert in the enamel.

Title: Re: insect enamelled toothpick holder
Post by: azelismia on May 26, 2008, 05:35:29 AM

Yeah, the enamel doesn't seem teh same quality of the heckert pieces I've seen either. I'd be leaning towards student enameling myself. 

Title: Re: insect enamelled toothpick holder
Post by: Lustrousstone on May 26, 2008, 10:56:07 AM

Unlikely to be student enamelling. Much Bohemian enamelling was carried out by home workers doing piece work, so you got what you paid for

Title: Re: insect enamelled toothpick holder
Post by: lyndhurst44 on May 27, 2008, 06:47:11 PM

Many Thanks everyone. :hiclp:
I am really getting a craving for more of these enamelled glass items now.
Sorry for the delay in replying but I've been away from the computer since Sunday.

Cheers,
Bryn