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Title: Edward Moore Chalice Vase ????
Post by: fiddlesticks on August 08, 2005, 01:14:49 PM

Edward Moore Chalice Vase ????  Had a mooch around the net and found something very close to this piece, different colour but shape pretty much the same.  In fact it has distinct vaseline look to it, off-white. On closer inspection at the bottom part of the bowl near the knop there was very obviously a gilded  fancy design, you can just see the outline, not on the piccy though cus it's too faint.  Has a little gilding left around the top.  

Any ideas :D

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v43/fiddlesticks/tulipvase.jpg

Title: Edward Moore Chalice Vase ????
Post by: Ivo on August 08, 2005, 03:57:28 PM

more like French or Bohemian opaline, 1860s

Title: Edward Moore Chalice Vase ????
Post by: fiddlesticks on August 08, 2005, 09:26:57 PM

definitely not opaline, true colour is vaseline, compared it to my tub of !! :lol: Camera never takes good pictures of items this colour.

Title: Edward Moore Chalice Vase ????
Post by: KevinH on August 09, 2005, 12:43:09 AM

I agree with Ivo.

In fact, my first reaction was that it was French because it looks a bit more "delicate" in form than those which I have thought to be Bohemian, but either could be correct.

And I also agree that it's Opaline glass.

Title: Edward Moore Chalice Vase ????
Post by: Sklounion on August 09, 2005, 06:18:14 AM

Based purely on the number of pieces I am currently seeing here, on virtually every vide-grenier and brocante, I'm inclined to go with Ivo and KevH, and stylistically this is right for French. Opaline, and anytime from mid 1800s onwards. I am also regularly seeing comparatively modern opaline vases, in old patterns, still bearing paper tags("fait a la main en Lorraine") for glass factories in the Alsace-Lorraine region.

regards,

Le Casson

Title: Edward Moore Chalice Vase ????
Post by: Cathy B on August 11, 2005, 02:03:10 AM

Quote from: fiddlesticks

definitely not opaline, true colour is vaseline, compared it to my tub of !! :lol: Camera never takes good pictures of items this colour.

Hi there,

You don't say where you are from, but this description of "vaseline" suggests you're Australian! :) Vaseline glass is named for the old vaseline, which was a yellow colour (it must have been horrible petrochemical stuff, and to think we used to put it on our chapped lips!). Opaline glass often gets called vaseline in Australia.

Tony Haytor's glass site has a good explanation for the novice:
http://www.1st-glass.1st-things.com/vaselineglass.html (http://www.1st-glass.1st-things.com/vaselineglass.html)

Cheers,
Cathy

Title: Edward Moore Chalice Vase ????
Post by: Glen on August 11, 2005, 07:57:42 AM

There's an "alabaster table centre" attributed to Richardson's in Manley's Decorative Glass that looks a lot like this item. He notes they were popular in the US.

Iam sure I must be barking up the wrong tree, but thought I'd throw it in anyhow.

Title: Edward Moore Chalice Vase ????
Post by: Anonymous on August 12, 2005, 05:14:47 PM

okey dokey, will go with Ivo on this one, thanks to all for info, will have a better mooch on the net again see what else I can find out about this piece :lol:

Title: Edward Moore Chalice Vase ????
Post by: Glen on August 13, 2005, 04:45:39 PM

Cathy said

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Opaline glass often gets called vaseline in Australia.

And look what gets called vaseline in the UK
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/STUNNING-CARNIVAL-GLASS-VASELINE-POSY-VASE_W0QQitemZ7343253020QQcategoryZ16QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

BTW this piece is a contemporary toothpick holder.