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Glass Identification - Post here for all ID requests => Glass Paperweights => Topic started by: soledivo on May 29, 2008, 05:55:04 PM
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Hello everyone,
my 1st post here, I actually collect Murano but I've had this paperweight for about 25 years. Can anyone tell me what type it is or who made it. I'm having to sell a lot of my glass as i've been a bit to enthusiastic over the years i've got glass everywhere.
The label has always been so worn there's nothing left but the shape.
regards
martin
http://i26.tinypic.com/14lr4as.jpg
http://i26.tinypic.com/24xfjq1.jpg
http://i29.tinypic.com/2ikcosg.jpg
thanks everyone
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This is Isle of Wight. The writing has come off the black triangle label.
Regards
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simiman, thanks so much, i'l have a look now in the right direction to see if its cataloged.
martin
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The world authority on IOW is Ron Wheeler at www.artiusglass.co.uk
He is very helpful, tel him Mike put you in touch
Regards Mike
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thanks again MIke, really appreciate your help
martin
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Azurene pink I would say, 1979-94
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Hi again,
I got a reply from Ron wheeler Mike and Lustrouss, spot on,
This is from a range called 'Azurene' in the colour Pink although it was more closely a cranberry colour in fact.
It was made by the design process of adding Silver & Gold to the surface of hot glass and was quite groundbreaking. It was a process which was devised by Michael Harris who founded the studio of Isle of Wight Studio Glass in 1973 after leaving his first studio of Mdina Glass on Malta which he founded in 1968. There is a long and involved story in this but too long to go into now although it is well documented and there is also a book published by Mark Hill of www.Markhillpublishing.com
Michael has quite a few firsts in the 20C history of studio glass production and processes and this is one of them although it was first produced, and is best recognised, on black glass. These colours (including blue and green) came after as an extension of that success. It was in production without a break from 1979 - 1995 when it was discontinued.
However this one was made between 1979 and 1989 as the triangle sticker was discontinued in that year.
It should be valued at around £50 -£55.00 now at retail or for insurance purposes but in truth this is not a colour which in our experience sells easily so a lot less would be more realistic.
To a dealer or on eBay expect somewhere closer to £25-£30.00
Hope that is of some help.
Best regards,
Ron & Ann Wheeler
thanks for your help guys
martin
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It was made by the design process of adding Silver & Gold to the surface of hot glass and was quite groundbreaking. It was a process which was devised by Michael Harris ...
Not completely accurate, see here for the history of this process http://www.glassmessages.com/index.php/board,3.0.html
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It was made by the design process of adding Silver & Gold to the surface of hot glass and was quite groundbreaking. It was a process which was devised by Michael Harris ...
Not completely accurate, see here for the history of this process http://www.glassmessages.com/index.php/board,3.0.html
Your a brave man to pick an argument with Ron Wheeler. Believe you me if he dosnt know about it then it dosent exist.
Mike www.abfabglass.co.uk
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Hi again,
I got a reply from Ron wheeler Mike and Lustrouss, spot on,
thanks for your help guys
martin
Way to go. Were here to help
Mike www.abfabglass.co.uk
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Not an argument just the results of researching earlier uses of gold foil etc. It is possible that MH was not aware of the earlier uses and just rediscovered the technique. Very little actually gets invented these days. Virtually all the techniques used in decorating today were the subject of 19th century patent applications!
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Cant actually see where your link goes other than back to the home messahe board with dozens of different subjects.
Mike www.abfabglass.co.uk
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The correct link http://www.glassmessages.com/index.php/topic,7608.0.html
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Hi Frank
You are right to a point, what Ron failed to point out was that the process you are talking about goes back centuries but it was always encased and this had not been a problem What Michael Harris cracked was the ability to do this purely as a surface decoration without any encasing.
Hope this clarifies the point.
Mike www.abfabglass.co.uk
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Not so d'Humy's patent was surface decoration as were some of the other earlier uses. No earlier example, than d'Humy, has yet been confirmed.
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I think then that where this crossover occurs is that Michael Harris registered the process of gold foil as a surface decoration with the design council and this was granted and is still held in his name to this day although sadly MH is no longer with us.
I can only assume that MH found away of doing the process so that much larger quantities could be made to enable easier production.
Mike
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I would recommend anyone who is interested in this technique to have a look at Marina Barovier's Carlo Scarpa, Glass of an Architect, published 1999 ISBN 88-8118-328-X.
In particular attention should be paid to the description of the 1928 Parisian Salon on p34: "an original use of opaque glass, which Scarpa employed, together with the application of gold leaf, to meet the new taste." There are further references to the " 'Phoenician' decoration, a technique which made these objects unique pieces, their quality being exalted by the strong colouring of the glass fabrics and by the application of gold leaf to the whole surface." These pieces which were produced by MVM Cappellin & C. are illustrated on pp58, 63/4 and the Phoenicians on pps66-71. In addition due regard should be paid to the images on pp72-81 and 87.
Alternatively, similar images of this work by Carlo Scarpa can be found in "Venetian Glass" - 20th Century Italian Glass - The Nancy Olnick and Giorgio Spanu Collection, published in 2000 by The American Craft Museum, New York, ISBN 1-890385-05-0. It is interesting to make a comparison between the Scarpa pieces shown 1929 -1936 and the piece produced by Archimede Seguso some twenty years later and entitled "Polveri"
The work to which I refer is very rare to find and I think it would be fair to assume that Mike Harris would most likely have been unaware of its existence when, together with William Walker, he began to develop Azurene, which was a hugely successful range*. In any event there is no doubt that the use of gold and silver leaf in Azurene bears his Mike's own unique "handwriting" and any suggestion that it was not original would be incorrect. However, it is not historically correct to assign to Mike the somewhat dubious accolade of being the first person to use gold and silver leaf as external decoration.
*During the mid eighties I played a small part in its success as I was running my family's gallery Coleridge, which was a major retailer for Isle of White glass from 1982 to 1986 and we bought and sold considerable volumes. Indeed, I might even have sold the piece that started this thread!
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That is a useful addition to the knowledge base on this technique Adam and of course IOWs approach was unique to them - probably doing more to popularise the decoration than any earlier users.
It is interesting that Scarpa used the name Phoenician as my slow hunt for earliest use had identified Phoenicians as a likely candidate, along with Rhenish glassmakers. But I need to get some archeological tomes to get further with that.
There are also more descriptions of related techniques in Duthie, 1908. But that is concerned with flat glass decoration. It mentions that mirrors made by applying metal leaf to the rear of glass or crystal were known to Aristotle.
My other hunt is for marvering of enamels for decoration, another technique that seems to have a lot of inventors ::)