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Glass Discussion & Research. NO IDENTIFICATION REQUESTS here please. => British & Irish Glass => Topic started by: Gilead on June 12, 2008, 01:17:05 AM
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Hi Fellow Members.
After months of collecting glass here and there, i have finally made my decision and chose Whitefriars.
To be my addiction have already started and am now actively looking for piece's, as you may know i am no expert and will of cause make a few mistakes, but not to many i hope, i will of cause be calling on your good selves now and again for advise you are all a very nice lot of people.
And i take this chance now to thank one and all, at times i think i will still pick up the odd piece of glass, which catches my eye not belonging to WF but hey we are all tempted now and again, here are what i have collected over the past few wks and some the past few days i have 10 more piece's on route to me.
Please take a look hope you like and enjoy.
Kind regards
Steve.
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Don't miss this then: http://www.glassmessages.com/index.php/topic,21579.0.html ;D
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aa.
Thanks for the link will try and get there if i can make time. this is a new edition to my collection came today kingfisher blue knobbley or lampbase, picked up a few more this morning on ebay.
Cheers
Steve.
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Details now up here, Steve.
http://www.zestgallery.com/display.php?navID=2
http://www.aaronsonnoon.com/display.php?navID=13
Hope you can make it but you'll need to reserve your space soon...25% of the places have been pre-booked. ;D
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Hi
got some new arrivals today, must try and sway away from red though ;D got some coffins on the way and a few more knobblys.
plus a ribbon trailed vase.
Steve
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Let it RIP! ;)
I mean, can we see some coffins as soon as possible?
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Hi Tigerchips.
Should be able to post some pics about Tuesday of them along with others i have won over the mad spending spree, i have had this week end, missed out on a pewter one but will be looking for another one over the next few weeks or days, got my eye on some soda vase's to keep my fingers crossed.
Cheers.
Steve
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Hi.
Just adding two more that arrived today, hope to put up the coffin ones soon, am waiting on quite a few now, Royal post ::),
Steve
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Evening.
Five more arrivals today still 14 to come, am buying daily now so should soon amass a good selection over the next few months, missed out on a Drunken Bricklayer :'( will try again, cheers.
Steve
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Good haul, Steve! :clap:
Make sure you get a genuine bricklayer, won't you? ;)
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Leni is right.............there are well documented fakes out there in the Bricklayer range. On the home page of www.whitefriars.com there is an article about them. Do read it!!!! Emmi
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Not to mention the Onion and Hooped vase fakes that recently turned up...
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Emmi & Nic.
Yes Emmi that's what i am a bit afraid of getting a dud? but will study more first.
Nic funny you mention the Hooped ones because at the moment i am tracking one, not bid yet but am waiting in the wings, to see what it gets up to, in the mean time i got my second Haul today,and have 10 more on the way. some photos here.
Cheers
Steve
PS The tear drops are looking nice got some more colours coming.
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Hi Steve, This is the stuff you should be devoting your efforts toward........... ( read the comments )
http://www.whitefriars.com/isit_contents.php?ID=5668
All best wishes,
Patrick.
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Hi Steve.. What do you do for a living and are there any jobs going. :mrgreen: Paul.
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HI Paul.
Retired bulider :hiclp: and my knee's are shot from bending, so not greatest job to have, cold wind rain snow, shivering thinking about it,
Steve
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Good luck with your wf collecting Steve. Paul.
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Hi Steve, This is the stuff you should be devoting your efforts toward........... ( read the comments )
http://www.whitefriars.com/isit_contents.php?ID=5668
All best wishes,
Patrick.
Why? Just because it's rare or valuable? I like a lot of WF but I don't like that so regardless of it's value it wouldn't make it's way into my collection. Steve, stick to what you like and you can't really go wrong.
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Hi Pip,
On reflection my comments were a bit negative. I was probably trying to say that I find the Whitefriars of the 1930-40 period much more pleasing. I cherish any finds not for there value but to see the skill of the glassblowers that were not driven by the need to ' Churn it out for the masses ' as in the 60's 70's.
Steve, My comment has probably irked you as well as Pip and I apologise. Good luck. Patrick.
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All fair comment, but I think everyone is very impressed with your enthusiasm, Steve, and I think that what Patrick was trying to point out is that once you start investigating Whitefriars there is a wealth of history and a huge layer of interesting glass that is often overlooked. This means that what most people think of as Whitefriars is only a small part of the factory's output over the centuries. :)
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By the way, Patrick, nice candlestick, is that for us to make on Whitefriars Day? Tricky one but not impossible! ;D
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Hi Steve, This is the stuff you should be devoting your efforts toward........... ( read the comments )
http://www.whitefriars.com/isit_contents.php?ID=5668
All best wishes,
Patrick.
Absolutely stunning! From a golden and somewhat ignored period in Powells history. An incredible find given it's age which is partly what makes it so rare. Lucky on both counts.
Craig
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HI Patrick,
No offence taken, i am just starting my collection, and will no doubt want to buy or find something from the early part of WF.
At the moment i tend to be going for the bark effect i missed out on a pyramid recently, but managed to get this nice Coffin, think it maybe Pewter but am not sure as the colour keeps changing in different light i have photo, along side a blue one but it seems more, gray please take a look and let me know what you think.
Am waiting on a sage knobbly also a couple of streaky ones, have got my eye on a tv vase, so keeping my fingers crossed, many thanks all for the kind comments and encouragement with my collecting, it's appreciated.
Steve.
PS sorry it is the one on the right,
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So true, Adam! :clap: I learned NOT to say (as I used to :-[ ) "I don't like Whitefriars" when I discovered the sort of WF glass Patrick likes and discovered I like it too! ;D
And then of course, there's my favourites - those wonderful swans ::) But you don't want to start collecting them, do you now, Steve? >:D
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Twenty years ago people collected "Powell" and the trend for 60/70s simply did not exist much of the earlier work represents the finest in English glassblowing and can often be found more cheaply than the modernist pressed stuff that seems to have captured the imagination today. Trends change and in 10 years things could be very different.
On the other hand I find the more pragmatic approach to collecting glass today greatly superior, in terms of human value, to the connoisseurship that is has largely supplanted. The modern collector is also spoilt with the high volume of research that is now so widely available.
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Hi Pip,
On reflection my comments were a bit negative. I was probably trying to say that I find the Whitefriars of the 1930-40 period much more pleasing. I cherish any finds not for there value but to see the skill of the glassblowers that were not driven by the need to ' Churn it out for the masses ' as in the 60's 70's.
Steve, My comment has probably irked you as well as Pip and I apologise. Good luck. Patrick.
No explanation needed Patrick but thank you anyway.
I do find generally, and this isn't a criticism of anyone merely an observation, that there is a certain amount of negativity in some circles towards the output of the the 1960s and 1970s. I remember when I was a lurker to this board (before I had the confidence to participate) reading a comment by one member which was on the one hand extolling the virtues of a particularly (in my view) frilly and fussy piece of turn of the century glass and on the other almost rubbishing the output from the previous 50 years. I am a big fan of the 1960s (in almost every way including music, fashion, architecture as well as pottery and glass) and mass-production isn't an issue for me if the design is good - however a piece of glass that has been laboured over long and hard doesn't appeal if the design is, to my eye, fussy, fiddly and old-fashioned. Horses for courses.
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BTW Steve, your coffin vase looks more like Indigo to me rather than Pewter. But they are quite difficult to tell apart sometimes in photos due to the lighting. Emmi
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HI Emmi.
I have been looking over WF.org for the past hour and i had come to thinking it maybe indigo, but am still know the wiser so decided to take a few photo's out side to see if it made any difference but again i can not tell, all the same i love the colour, got to get a tangerine one now and green so will be on ebay again tonight.
Hope no one minds if i put up some more photos.
Regards.
Steve.
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It's a mine field out there! i came across an old book i have today, with a page devoted to Whitefriars, it shows a black and white photo of cut glass decanters, a paperweight and a millefiore inkwell, dated 1978.
I had forgotten all about it.
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I have always gone for the early W/Fs as most of it is hand formed difficult to forge and looks great,about ten years ago Ray said he could have me making a drunken brick in about half an hour and said the prices were mad and at that time were about £150-200 .I feel the older pieces will soon have their day and start to rise.
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Hi Can some tell me if this is Pewter colour, or indigo colour, when i photo it i keep getting different colours from a Grey to silver to blue to sometimes a bluey gray, if there is any such colour.
I have read on the net that indigo isn't technicaly a colour? doe's any one know please.
Steve
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Not knowing anything about WF colors, I've always thought of Indigo as a blue and pewter (the metal) is shades of grey (depending on level of corrosion).
Wiki's article on Indigo sugests that people will see indigo differently as it is hard to distinguish from violet.
Your vase seems similar to the color the wiki article gives as "indigo dye".
Wiki article. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indigo)
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Hi alexander
You are the second to say indigo Emmi thought the same read the wiki article, so it look's like indigo then, had this come today, Knobbly streaky. smokey and brown looks great in the light.
Cheers
Steve
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Hi Steve there is a vase on Ebay at the moment posing as W/Fs it is a very nice Stevens And Williams rainbow vase but not W/Fs it is probably worth as much as if it were W/Fs ,the seller has ignored my opinion. {sans prejudice}JP
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Hi All
Some more arrivals units getting full now will need more room soon ;D Mrs G asking where will i put them all :huh: easy every where >:D hope you like them.
Steve
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Do what I do - cycle your glass according to your whims, picking out just 10-20 pieces each time and putting the rest into easy-access stoage - means you can fully appreciate your collection instead of it becoming just a mass of glass you can no longer really see because there's so much of it. ;D
Lots of very very nice glass you have there, by the way.
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Hi Nic
Think i will get some new units first then once full store and bring out now and then, and thank you for the nice comment.
While i am answering Anne would this label be any good for the label ref if so do please use, only remembered i took it just as i was tidying up my photo files.if you need closer one will do one no worry's
Cheers
Steve
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Hi All.
I have been collecting quite a few WF's over the past month so thought i would share with you, if that's not minded.
But they can all be seen better at http://www.glassgallery.yobunny.org.uk/ should you wish to look at them in more detail. am still collecting quite a few per week and i thank all members for their help with my glass collecting addiction ;D
Cheers
Steve
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Direct link to the gallery: http://www.glassgallery.yobunny.org.uk/thumbnails.php?album=669
Looking good there, Steve - some really nice pieces. I'm envious! :mrgreen:
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Steve what a fabulous display :) they look beautiful.
m
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Hi Nic
my collection is mainly down to you did you spot the ones i purchased from your great shop www.zeitgeist-i.com
All those months ago, every body needs to start some where, and i thank you for the encouragement you gave me at the start.
have at times made mistakes and bought the wrong things but hey, that's part of the learning process, have got a few duplicates at the moment so will have to sell them on, then buy some i know i want,
Thank you flying free (M) for your nice comment, hope to add a few more this week but busy with the barge at the local fete, so will not be able to bid to much. am hoping to get to Stourbridge this week end too,
Cheers
Steve
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While i am answering Anne would this label be any good for the label ref if so do please use, only remembered i took it just as i was tidying up my photo files.if you need closer one will do one no worry's
Sorry Steve, I'd not spotted this earlier - yes please, it'd be a good addition to the labels collection. I'll trim this one for size and pop it in if that's OK. :)
Your collection is looking good too. :)
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Hi Anne.
Thats fine always glad if i can help even if it is only a little, am still a renowned novice :( but hope to get better over time years in fact
Steve