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Glass Identification - Post here for all ID requests => Glass => Topic started by: oyemicanto on June 15, 2008, 04:11:05 PM
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I have this Art Deco pink frosted glass Kingfisher flower frog.The bird stands on a rocky surface with cut panels down the rocks,very detailed! I have no idea about maker anyone haqve any clues?
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I wonder if he's a kookaburra rather than a common kingfisher from Europe - his beak is rather stubby
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Agreed,not quite right for a kingfisher. Eyes in wrong place, maybe a Woodpecker, Kookaburra sounds good,
oyemicanto , where are you, could be a USA bird?
Andy
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It's a kookaburra Andy, see here http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kookaburra look at the shape of the eye's, along with the beak.
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Andy...not a US flower frog...probably Austrailian. Ken
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Agreed, Kookaburra.
Maybe Crown crystal, or were they just Carnival?
http://www.ddoty.com/austkingkooka.html
Andy
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Hi,
Standard questions first, height in cms, please? will it take a circular lip/peg to hold it on a frog? or is there internal wear to the base indicating it stood on something?My prime candidate would be Czech, but I need this basic info.....
Arguably a centre-piece, minus frog and bowl.
Regards,
Marcus
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Possibly, except only two varieties of kingfisher are generally found in Europe and N. America and he's a poor representation of either of those. And his beak looks too stubby for an insect eating woodpecker
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Measures 15.5cm high,the base underneath measures 8cm across and is a sort of diamond shape.There is minor surface wear to base so could have been originally in a matching bowl? Now you mention it it is more like a kookabura so maybe this piece was Australian? Or made for the Australian market.I purchased this at an antiques centre in Glasgow,Scotland last year.
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Hi,
Thank you. If Czech, this centrepiece would have stood on a frog, 45mm high and 135mm in diameter. I think this may be pattern number 1996, from Libochovice a.s. and would have stood in a matched 335mm diameter bowl, pattern number 1995. Frog and centre piece were supplied as one item. Anyone know of another possible European manufacturer??
Regards,
Marcus
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NO
from here
glad to see you back here Marcus
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Agreed, Kookaburra.
Maybe Crown crystal, or were they just Carnival?
http://www.ddoty.com/austkingkooka.html
Andy
If it were an Australian piece I'd have thought there'd be a mention in Conway's Australian Glass, but it's not there. Perhaps Cathy can add more.
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If that's a kookaburra, it's not a very good representation, which makes me think it's not Australian. The feet are different, the eyes on a kookaburra are nearer the beak, the nostril not nearly as large, the beak sharper...
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Poor birdy, at least we've decided he's not the most recognisable representation of whatever he's supposed to be!
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If you want to see Australian Carnival - click on Kookaburra for more photos.
http://www.geocities.com/carni_glass_uk_2000/Aussie.html
Glen
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Hi,
The size and acuteness of the bill, will have been determined by the technique of press-moulding. No point whatsoever in an accurate representation of the beak, if it gets broken/damaged as it leaves the mould.
Regards,
Marcus
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Definitely not made in Australia, but probably for the Australian market as it looks close enough to something that Australians would recognise as a kooka. If it were made in Czechoslovakia for the Aus market they would be working from photographs, which might also account for some differences.
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Another Kingfisher in part clear / frosted finish
Roy
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... may be pattern number 1996, from Libochovice a.s. and would have stood in a matched 335mm diameter bowl, pattern number 1995. Frog and centre piece were supplied as one item....
Having seen the catalogue image of 1995, not even close!
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Thanks, Frank.