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Glass Identification - Post here for all ID requests => Glass => Topic started by: Anne on June 17, 2008, 02:29:55 AM

Title: F R Lang, UK, 1930s
Post by: Anne on June 17, 2008, 02:29:55 AM
Presumably an importer? They appear in the Blue Book during the 1930s - is there a known connection to Jules Lang? Does anyone have more on F R Lang please?
Title: Re: F R Lang, UK, 1930s
Post by: Frank on June 17, 2008, 08:54:52 AM
As they were both in Charlton Place, Islington it is more than likely. Although F R's address was Charlton Works and I have not seen a works address for the company.
Title: Re: F R Lang, UK, 1930s
Post by: Anne on June 17, 2008, 04:16:14 PM
Thanks Frank, that gives me a lead to follow. :)
Title: Re: F R Lang, UK, 1930s
Post by: Anne on June 18, 2008, 04:49:30 AM
I find Jules Lang at 16 Bury St, St Mary Axe, EC in the PO directories from 1899 - 1910 and at 105 Snow's Fields, Bermondsey, SE, also in 1910.  They don't seem to be in the 1914/1915 directories anywhere.

I also found a Jonas Lang, 124 Houndsditch, EC in 1914 & 1915. Are they connected as well I wonder? No mention of FR Lang in the directories up to 1915 so far.
Title: Re: F R Lang, UK, 1930s
Post by: Frank on June 18, 2008, 08:39:34 AM
my source was '33
Title: Re: F R Lang, UK, 1930s
Post by: Anne on June 18, 2008, 10:45:39 PM
That explains it Frank. The historical directory site doesn't have them as late as that - nothing post-WW1.
Title: Re: F R Lang, UK, 1930s
Post by: Bernard C on June 19, 2008, 07:28:33 AM
Anne — This is an aspect of a subject almost completely ignored in historical research, but which could have significance if evaluated by someone suitably experienced.   And that is, quite simply, what names and addresses appear on the patent applications, design and trade mark registrations, copyright notices, and other legal and public notices relating to the company.

For example, J.G. Sowerby's name appears on his patents, but the company name on the design registrations at the time.   Why, I don't know, but it's important to notice this and record it so that someone in the future can explain its significance.

F.R. Lang could have been a director of Jules Lang — if so, is there anything noticeably different about this registration?

Bernard C.  8)
Title: Re: F R Lang, UK, 1930s
Post by: Frank on June 19, 2008, 10:45:40 AM
It remains common practice to name individuals on patents and addresses can be either a person. But this type of data fully searchable is the raison d'etre of the Glass Study and over the next few years we can quickly find more on this company.

Jonas Lang & Co, 124 are listed under 'Agents, Commissioneers and Representatives' in Rousset 1909. If they also appear in the trades section will have to wait until it is fully digitised.

A J. Lang (Austria-Hungary) also received a bronze medal at Paris 1878, but no further details in the following report on a quick glance.

Jules Lang & Sons were established in 1858 but that does not mean that they had not gone under a different name before that 1950 reference when they were located at 96 Hatton Garden, London. 1950 also gives us  Warehouses: Stoke-on-Trent and London, Manchester Offices and Showrooms.

In 1949 we find "Jules Lang and Son on Nov. 9, 1899, as a bookkeeper, later becoming manageress when the firm moved to Charlton Place Islington, N.1, during the First World War." Individuals mentioned are Fernand Lang and Bernard Lang. So Fernand fits the bill for F R Lang.