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Glass Identification - Post here for all ID requests => Glass => Topic started by: BJB on June 28, 2008, 01:50:12 PM
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I am nearly at the end of photographing and adding the glass I bought to my web site, but I am stumped by this little thing.
http://i28.tinypic.com/1zmm4uw.jpg
It is about 4" tall and has what looks like the Star of David and Greek Key edging, but no makers marks at all.
Has anyone any ideas about maker, and if that symbol may be Masonic?
Thanks,
Barbara
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Please check out the site and PLEASE let me know of any mistakes!!
www.theglasscabinet.co.uk
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I wonder if it's related to this set...
http://www.pressglas-korrespondenz.de/aktuelles/pdf/pk-2005-3w-hartmann-champenois.pdf
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Different style of star, but that image is not clear enough to really see it.
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Well, it's the Star of David with the Greek Key pattern, how much closer do you wan't me to be? ;D ::)
I shall have another go...
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I have looked at Dotty Daves site but I don't think it is a pattern which has been made in carnival glass, as I know some were made in milk glass as well as carnival.
After seeing the Stars of David on that site, I don't think mine is, just a star shape pentagon thingy.
Barbara
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http://www.pressglas-pavillon.de/deckeldosen/04470.html
http://www.pressglas-pavillon.de/deckeldosen/05172.html
http://www.pressglas-pavillon.de/deckeldosen/05173.html
these are mine, only the green ones marked REIMS DÉPOSÉ
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Barbara and Tiger, don't think they are relatives - greek key is completely different as the rest of the pattern is also
Barbara's star of David with its half pearls at the tips looks like a Sheriff's star we get here during carnival season for the kiddies 8) US then - colour could be that - JMHO 8)
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Hi Pamela,
They are similar, but my star has a six sided figure ( can't remember what its called ?sixagon) in the middle and little bobbles on the end of the top, bottom and side points
I hope this is a little clearer to see.
http://i32.tinypic.com/2i21k5t.jpg
Barbara
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Hi Barbara, sixagon is hexagon and my 'half pearls' are the bobbles you described - sorry for my lack of knowledge of English language :-X
still do not believe there is a relation and cannot help further as with my photos, I'm afraid :'(
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Hi Pamela,
You put it much better than me,and as for my German ::), just don't go there, four years learning, and zilch!
It just seemed a strange combination to use as decoration on what I think may be a spill vase.
Barbara
www.theglasscabinet.co.uk
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Masonic is possible, particularly because of the balls. But most usually there are five points on masonic stars. The balls would represent the world's linked by masonry. Perhaps a particular lodge found a need for a sixth point and then added two more awkwardly for luck ;)
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Hi Frank
Is that why they have a funny handshake? :angel:
runs very quickly this way >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >:D
Barbara
www.theglasscabinet.co.uk
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I would think that with the Star of David, there would be a chance of it being hebrew or jewish. "But you can't serve meat in the milk glass" :ac1: I know, bad, bad sense of humour. >:D The stress is getting to me.
Carolyn
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I do know that the star is the Jewish Symbol for the Star of David. Not the Star of David that is Early American Prescut. Maybe knowing that the star is Jewish will help...........
As far a Mason, I think that is in the right area. You could search for "The order of the Eastern Star". However, Mason's are very secretive......
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I have been looking at stars until I am seeing them now :-\, and I don't think it is the Jewish one, it doesn't look like it at all.
So I am leaning to the Masonic angle, but being female, not knowing the handshakes and as I have both trouser legs rolled down, I think it may be an uphill battle ;D
Barbara
www.theglasscabinet.co.uk
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My neighbors were Mason's. It looks to me like it would be in a cup they used in a ritual. Like when they moved up in the temple each time and oath was taken. Then a drink and some other hokie pokie to verify the new statice.
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The world has advanced and female lodges exist. Though most women have more sense to play kid's games once grown up ;)
I don't think this example can be the Star of David because of the embellishments so probably best just to call it a hexagram.
It could also be a brewers sign. see http://www.schlenkerla.de/biergeschichte/brauerstern/html/ausschankzeichene.html
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Husband, who knows about these things ;) (he used to be Jewish and he used to be a Mason! ;D ) says an interlaced star is Masonic, not Jewish. It's a development from the interlaced square and compass symbol.
No idea who made the little glass, though! Sorry! ::)
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Husband, who knows about these things ;) (he used to be Jewish and he used to be a Mason! ;D ) says an interlaced star is Masonic, not Jewish. It's a development from the interlaced square and compass symbol.
No idea who made the little glass, though! Sorry! ::)
It does sound like your OH might know what he's talking about in this case ;D I hadn't noticed the interlaced bit. I will have to tuck that away in my tiny mind.
Carolyn