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Glass Discussion & Research. NO IDENTIFICATION REQUESTS here please. => Murano & Italy Glass => Topic started by: deco.queen on July 01, 2008, 03:46:50 AM
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I'm coming to the pros with this set. The candleholders are 4 1/2" tall, 6" wide. The lemon is 5 1/2 inches long and 3 inches high. They are high quality but not marked. The glass doesn't glow under black light, the yellow turns a shade of orange. Thanks for looking!!
Janice
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Janice — They could be Alabaster by Stevens & Williams, later Royal Brierley, launched about 1914 (Dodsworth, BGbtW), with the main production 1920s and '30s. Alabaster was a jade type semi-translucent glass, each item always made in two colours, white with colours such as rose, blue, cinnamon, primrose (Jackson C20 Factory Glass), and green.
I don't recognise the patterns, but then I have no information on what patterns S&W/RB may have made specifically for the American export market. Have you already eliminated Steuben, major manufacturers of a similar style in the US? Other British factories are unlikely in my opinion.
A worldwide Google search on "Stevens Williams Alabaster" will bring up plenty of illustrated examples, one or two apparently signed, which is always useful. I am rather sceptical about the authenticity of some of the more fanciful colour names you will find.
Bernard C. 8)
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Is Murano not a possibility then? :-\
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Is Murano not a possibility then?
TC — I don't know, is it?
Bernard C. 8)
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in opaline, Murano, Belgium and France are all possible. A strong design like this could easily be Nason.
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Steuben came to mind when I saw them but when I picked one up and it was heavy(one candlestick weighs 2 lbs), thick glass. In my little knowledge of Steuben I thought it would be more delicate. I checked my Revi book which has some catalog pictures in the back of Steuben designs and didn't see anything like this.
I will do research on the Stevens & Williams names you gave me. I wasn't even aware they did this style glass.
As far as Murano goes, I have no idea about their older items.
Thank you for the information! My search continues....
Janice
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Is Murano not a possibility then?
TC — I don't know, is it?
Bernard C. 8)
I just thought the bowl looked like glass from Murano.
Search this site below using the word "alabastro"...
http://www.trocadero.com/svazzo/
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Wow, it's amazing what happens when you change the last 3 letters in a word ;D. I emailed them about my set, keeping my fingers crossed. I like what they said in their description about one they sold "RARE Large Murano YELLOW and White ALABASTRO Art Glass Candle Stick... Attributed to Archimede SEGUSO circa 1950's!!! Yellow is one of the most sought after colors by collectors! Very heavy and in amazing condition." Thank you so much for that link!
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Javier is a moderator on the Murano board here ;D
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Thanks TC :-*
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Javier is a moderator on the Murano board here ;D
Gosh, since I didn't know that I sent another email with GMB in the topic. Maybe he will reply to this post.
My fingers are still crossed! ;D
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Darn, finally something I could have helped with, and I'm too late! These pieces are in my Archimede Suguso book.
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Oh my, they are really by him! :o I'm sitting down...is there a book value on them? And if it says a year that would be fab! I'm so excited! :hiclp: Thank you, thank you!!
Janice
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The candle holders in the book are blue, so the value may be different. Book value on those is listed as $200-300 each. Value on the bowl is given as $100-150. Of course, you can't put a lot of stock in book values. But these are very nice pieces, and not very common.
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Thank you. I was just curious as I had never seen any of his pieces before. This way I know they are a really good find and we'll take very special care of them. Who knows some day I may need to sell them to buy gas!
Janice
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Well it's about $9 a US gallon here in the UK...
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Thanks, everyone. Nowadays it's not often I learn so much about glass in one go!
Opaline — Unless quoting an authoritative source I've always avoided the term as I have never been quite sure what it is. Also I always ensured that an eBay listing involving anything that could be opaline included the word as a keyword. Now I understand it, if I am correct, to be synonymous with alabaster / alabastro. Or has it a wider meaning? Thanks, Ivo.
Alabaster — Previously I was only aware of the S&W and Steuben production of this beautiful glass, although I had not intended my reply above to indicate that I thought that it was made exclusively by these two factories. Now I know of three manufacturers, with the possibility of others. Is the term alabaster reserved for this white plus one other colour combination of opaline glass, or has it been used for single colour pieces?
... and congratulations, Janice, on your lovely glass.
Bernard C. 8)
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Just an addition to this thread although I know it is very old and the information is probably updated now.
According to the Stevens and Williams book The Crystal Years (R.S. Williams-Thomas) Stevens and Williams Alabaster (quoted in his reference on page 24, with the start of the word alabaster in lower case, although the title of the chapter is Art Alabaster with capital letters) was made in single colours as well. He shows what looks like a green candlestick and also a blue bowl in single colours. He says 'The articles were often designed in two colours, the body of the specimen being coloured, but all appendages such as handles, knobs and feet were of white or cream alabaster.'
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